Foreign cars pass Big 3

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by dbltap, Jul 26, 2006.

  1. dbltap

    John Horner Guest

    It seems like an oxymoron, yet isn't when you consider the product lines
    of GM, Ford and Chrysler. At any given time over the past 10 years
    none of them have had compelling products in all of the markets they
    compete in. Ford, for example, had put the vast majority of it's
    investment into it's trucks and SUVs over the past 1-2 decades and has
    never once in that time fielded top class vehicles in each of the car
    categories. It even gave up on the mid-size car class all together when
    the Contour failed to meet sales expectations.

    GM has the problem of too many brand as well. At any given time GM is
    busy investing in one or two of it's brands while the other languish.

    If you can't be one of the best in category, then you shouldn't bother
    playing. However, if you are one of the top three vehicle makers in the
    world then you need to play in a big way in every significant segment.
    Toyota does so. GM, Ford and Chrysler do not.

    Honda takes another tact. Honda knows it is not one of the biggest, so
    they rifle shoot at markets where they feel they can place extremely
    competitive products. Consequently, Honda's hit rate is much higher
    than any of the US makers enjoy. Every one of Honda's present US
    offerings consistently lands among the best-in-class ratings visa-vis
    competitors. GM and Ford are lucky if they land one or two vehicles on
    such lists.

    John


    John
     
    John Horner, Jul 27, 2006
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    John Horner Guest

    BMW's strategy is in many ways similar to Hondas in that in the
    categories BMW chooses to compete in it regularly builds one of the best
    in class vehicles out there. By best in class I do not necessarily mean
    top selling. However, usually best in class vehicles also end up being
    amongst the top sellers in the class.

    John
     
    John Horner, Jul 27, 2006
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    jg Guest

    It sounds to me like stating the bleedin obvious. If they want to sell more
    they have to get more attractive (not just in looks), otoh position on the
    scoreboard might not have been their prime concern. Maybe it's profit on
    what they did sell... probably doesn't bother BMW or Morgan that they are
    not top of the sales tree. They have different objectives to you & I who
    just want a good car. And what sells the most doesn't necessarily drive us
    either.
     
    jg, Jul 27, 2006
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    jg Guest

    Depends which magazine you read. But something other than sales volume being
    their prime objective in the past, is about the only way the comment about
    spreading development dollars across cars & trucks... makes sense. (and I
    don't think it makes sense - they always need to spend development dollars)
     
    jg, Jul 27, 2006
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    Bassplayer12 Guest

    So what's city MPG with an Impala?
     
    Bassplayer12, Jul 28, 2006
    #25
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    Picasso Guest

    Look to your north, health car costs are a fraction here as well.
     
    Picasso, Jul 29, 2006
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    who Guest

    [/QUOTE]
    I recently rented a new Ford Focus (1.6 L ?) manual shift SW in the UK
    and although it had excellent interior space I found it very noisy
    (noise being amplified in the car) and the fuel mileage was low; about
    the same highway mileage as my Sebring V6 2.7 L auto.
    The revs in top gear were about 50% higher than the Sebring;
    about 3,000 rpm at 60 mph.
    Now I'm wondering how bad the NA Focus is, but I'll have to pass on it
    based on my UK experiences.
     
    who, Jul 30, 2006
    #27
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    L Alpert Guest

    This is the same in the US, to some degree, depending on who defaults on
    their pension obligations.
     
    L Alpert, Aug 5, 2006
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