frame rust--how to fix?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Abeness, Oct 31, 2004.

  1. Abeness

    Abeness Guest

    I know absolutely nothing about body work, though I've used a sanding
    disc and wire brushes before. I have rotary brushes for my drill, too.
    I've got a bit of rust on the frame column between the front and rear
    doors on the driver's side, around where the passenger door hinges
    attach to the frame. Since this is practically the only rust on a '94
    Civic I'd like to stop it before it gets any worse and before winter
    gets cold here.

    Once I take the door off I assume I just sand the rust down, hoping it
    isn't so serious that I weaken the frame in doing so, but what should I
    put on it to stop the rust I can't get out? I don't care about matching
    the body color afterwards, as this area is visible only when the doors
    are open. Is there an anti-rust primer, then I'd cover that with spray
    paint?

    I may also run down to the local body shop to see what they'd charge me
    to do it, since I don't have a lot of time to deal with this before it
    gets too cold.

    Last car I had was a rusted hulk, so I kinda want to prevent the same
    from happening here. It's a novel thing for me to be driving an unrusted
    vehicle... <g>

    Abe
     
    Abeness, Oct 31, 2004
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  2. It's too late. IT's the rust that you don't see that will do you, er,
    the car in. Hondas rust and I know of no way to prevent it other than
    living in a dry warm climate.

    If I were you, I would cosmetically fix the problem if appearance is an
    issue and start saving for another car. If you're buying used,
    sometimes it is worth buying the same model for a rust free area such as
    the SW US and saving your running gear as spare parts...
     
    Grumpy au Contraire, Oct 31, 2004
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  3. Abeness

    Grumble Guest


    Do A Google Search "auto rust prevention"

    Grumble
     
    Grumble, Oct 31, 2004
    #3
  4. If it is just surface rust on the door pillar, then just sand it down
    and paint it with Rustoleum, or something called Zinc It, made by
    Rustoleum, which provides a zinc-rich coating that will give rust
    something to chew on other than the structural steel in your car.

    What will really kill your car though is rust through on the gusseting
    on the underbody. I brought an '87 Prelude a while back with the
    intention of fixing it up, and driving it as a beater. I only discovered
    how bad it was after buying several hundred dollars worth of parts, and
    really getting underneath to work on the brakes and front end. I ended
    up having it hauled away, along with all of its expensive new parts. I
    learned a hard lesson about inspecting a car thoroughly before writing
    the check!

    This type of rust usually starts on the inside, and by the time it
    breaks through to the outside, it's too late. The only way you may be
    able to buy some time is to weld or braze new metal in, but often the
    worst areas are inaccessable, or will require the interior to be gutted
    for the operation. This was the case with the Prelude.
     
    Bruce_Nolte_N3LSY&, Nov 1, 2004
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  5. Another thing you can do to delay the day of reckoning if you suspect
    rust within is to spray a penetrating type oil, such as WD-40,
    Zepreserve, or the like into the cavities such as door pillars, door and
    fender bottoms, tailgates, the inside of the wheel arches, etc, where
    rust can get a foothold. You may have to drill an access hole or remove
    some interior panels to get to some spots, however. Repeat this every
    year or so, and see how long you can make it last.
     
    Bruce_Nolte_N3LSY&, Nov 1, 2004
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  6. Abeness

    Abeness Guest

    Thanks, guys, for all the suggestions. Truth is that all cars rust, not
    just Hondas--you shoulda seen my old Pontiac rustbuket of a wagon. Thing
    there was that themetal was so damn thick and well-layered that pounds
    of metal could fall out and the thing still held together. My new Honda
    is a heck of lot lighter, though, so what I'm really trying to do is
    delay the inevitable. I actually can't believe the thing is as rust free
    as it is, after its former life in Buffalo, NY.
     
    Abeness, Nov 10, 2004
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