Front End Alignment At 15,000 Miles ?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Robert11, Dec 9, 2004.

  1. Robert11

    Robert11 Guest

    Hi,

    Would like to get your opinions on this:

    Brought my 2004 Accord LX, 6 cyl in for the first 15,000 mile checkup.

    The Service Mgr. at the dealership said that "they automatically do a front
    end alignment on these
    cars Every 15,000, as the "slightest mis-alignment causes uneven wear on the
    tires, which are so expensive"

    The Honda site has nothing about front end alignments at 15K
    in their Service Intervals writeups for the car.

    Can't hurt, I guess, but it sure sounds like a very low mileage to have
    done. Also, not cheap.

    Is the dealership milking me, or is it a "pretty good" idea to have done at
    15K intervals ?

    Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

    Thanks,
     
    Robert11, Dec 9, 2004
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    Elle Guest

    Are there any symptoms of the car's not steering properly?

    Have you driven over any potholes or hit any curbs?

    How do the tires look? Any abnormal wear (e.g. more on one side than the other)?

    I would be very suspicious. I have a 1991 Civic (bought new, 159k miles) and it
    has never had an alignment. No steering problems or abnormal tire wear, either.
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2004
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  3. Robert11

    jmattis Guest

    Whole, pasturized, no-hormones-added, milk.

    If your tires are wearing properly (run your hand across them in
    addition to a visual inspection) there is NO reason to get an
    alignment.

    Front drive cars have TOUGH suspensions. You generally have to whack a
    curb really hard, or wreck your car, or go into a hellacious pothole to
    cause any shift.

    I wouldn't just laugh in their faces, I'd take my car to another dealer
    that doesn't try to get away with this b.s.

    JM
     
    jmattis, Dec 9, 2004
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    John Horner Guest

    StealerShips love to add all kinds of services to the factory schedule. An
    annual alignment check isn't a bad idea, and should be cheap. Normally one
    year old vehicles should not need the front end aligned.

    John
     
    John Horner, Dec 10, 2004
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    SoCalMike Guest

    id say youre being milked. if you *want* to do this, ask to watch while
    they take the reading and compare it to what its supposed to be.
     
    SoCalMike, Dec 10, 2004
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    E. Meyer Guest

    Generally there is no prescribed mileage for front end alignments because it
    depends almost totally on when you hit that next big pothole or scrape the
    curb. If the tires are wearing evenly and the car steers straight ahead on
    a flat & level roadway, you don't need one. If there are signs of abnormal
    wear on the front tires or the handling is off, then you do need one.

    If the dealer is saying this sight-unseen, then he is just trying to milk
    you. Probably most cars do need an alignment by 15,000 miles, but it should
    be prescribed after first looking at the front wheels and suspension.
     
    E. Meyer, Dec 10, 2004
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    motsco_ _ Guest


    Moooooooooooo, Mooooooooooo

    Call the BBB in your area and see if they have a long 'rap sheet'

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Dec 10, 2004
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    Sean Dinh Guest

    There is no limit nor guideline for mileage for front end alignment. Bad
    alignment can happen at any time. Most of them come from hitting a parking
    stopper or curb hard with 1 wheel, or hitting a pot hole. Mines happens when I
    corner hard and hit a ridge in mid corner, due to lowered car.

    If you're the only driver, and that you can account for your mistakes, and that
    the tech can't find any fault with tire wear in the front tires, you shouldn't
    have to deal with front end alignment. As for 'slightest mis-alignment causes
    uneven wear", that is BS. I do my front end alignment with a tape measure, quite
    sloppily. I don't have any problem with uneven tire wear.
     
    Sean Dinh, Dec 10, 2004
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  9. I will agree with everyone else. But one other thing that I try to follow
    is that the tires should be rotated every 7500 miles. on this schedule even
    a slight out of alignment will hardly be noticeable.

    Scott
     
    Scott Van Nest, Dec 10, 2004
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  10. Robert11

    don Guest

    Doing an alignment without any indication of one being needed is totally
    wrong.



    Scott mentions a good point about having routine tire rotation. I am quite
    sure most Honda dealers do it at every 7,500 mile interval. The technician
    should be examining the tires during this process. As many folks have
    pointed out, poor alignment is indicated by uneven tire wear or feathering
    of the tread. The latter can be easily felt by running your fingers over
    the tread. Minor tire wear can be missed until the tire is off the car as
    in the case of rotation.



    It may be that the technician doing the 15,000 mile service noted something.
    If the dealer really tried to have you get an alignment without looking at
    the tires then they were absolutely wrong. If this was the case then they
    should be reported both to the better business and the regional Honda
    office.
     
    don, Dec 10, 2004
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  11. Robert11

    Sparky Guest

    Mooooo
     
    Sparky, Dec 10, 2004
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    Sean Dinh Guest

    Seems like I plagiarized Meyer...
     
    Sean Dinh, Dec 11, 2004
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    y_p_w Guest

    He's probably milking you. That being said, I'll add two things:

    1) Some cars come straight from the factory out of alignment, and/or
    arrive that way when finally delivered. My last car is not built
    by Honda, but I brought it in for an alignment check with under
    900 miles. It was already out of spec. Cars are not typically
    factory checked for alignment.

    2) I would suggest getting a "lifetime" four-wheel alignment. The
    one I got was $160. I had the same deal for my '95 Integra GS-R.
    They never asked to perform any additional services that weren't
    needed. They did tell me my tires were bald (I figured that one
    out myself) and gave me a quote, but didn't pressure me. This
    was at a Firestone service center, and their lifetime alignment
    is good at any of their shops around the US. I must have gotten
    at least 5 alignments which would have normally cost me about
    $300.
     
    y_p_w, Dec 13, 2004
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    fletch Guest

    Sounds like BS, but I have owned 3 Accords (80, 85, 91) and I have never
    had an alignment last for more than about 6 months on any of my Accords.
    I have been told by more than one mechanic that this is what Accords are
    known for. Still, if the car drives fine and you are showing no signs of
    uneven tire wear, skip the alignment. You'll know when it's time for one.
     
    fletch, Dec 15, 2004
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    Lowryter Guest

    probably a good idea to check the aligment.

    if it checks OK, no need to align it.
     
    Lowryter, Dec 18, 2004
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  16. Robert11

    Lowryter Guest

    my '86 Accord had the rear misaligned from the factory.

    I attribute it to overloading the suspension by excssively tying the car down
    while the car was shipped. In fact, the rear could never be toally aligned
    wihin spec.

    Honda dealer didnt a 4 wheel alingment rack then and sent it to a body shop.

    Although it was aligned for free, I had to buy 2 tires out of pocket.

    Letter to Honda were not answered.
     
    Lowryter, Dec 18, 2004
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    Thomas Hern Guest

    I have had two Hondas come from the factory that needed alignment, and
    know of one other. Once aligned, I never had to do it again.


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