Fuel Booster?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mmdir2005, Oct 9, 2005.

  1. mmdir2005

    mmdir2005 Guest

    http://www.mpdirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=223&dc=mpgoogle

    Is this some kind of joke?
     
    mmdir2005, Oct 9, 2005
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  2. mmdir2005

    Elle Guest

    I'd say it's some kind of snake oil, yes.

    Raising octane has to do with reducing engine knock. If this stuff really
    raises the octane, and you have engine knock, then fuel efficiency may
    improve. If it cleans the fuel system, that might help fuel efficiency, too.

    Otherwise, I doubt it will help fuel mileage.

    All I do these days for the fuel system is change the fuel filter regularly
    and add a $6 bottle of Chevron Techron to the fuel tank, per the bottle's
    directions, once a year. It's supposed to keep the injectors etc. clean.
    (Some add this every oil change.) Dunno if it makes a difference, but some
    folks here suggest it does. My 1991 Civic is getting up there in years, and
    some parts about which the typical "trade my car in every five years" owner
    need not concern him/herself, are getting a bit mucky. Hence my attempts at
    prevention of the muck. Still getting 40+ mpg most of the year, so I can't
    complain.
     
    Elle, Oct 9, 2005
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  3. mmdir2005

    mmdir2005 Guest

    I don't know how your 91 civic could reach 40+ mpg. No matter how good
    you maintain
    your car, 90 civic can't reach more than 35mpg.
     
    mmdir2005, Oct 10, 2005
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  4. Well guess what? Hers can get 40mpg. It depends on your driving habits.

    EPA rated the 1990-93 Accord at 28mpg on the highway, but I consistently get
    32-34mpg on the highway with my '93. And it's an automatic.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Oct 10, 2005
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  5. mmdir2005

    Elle Guest

    You're mistaken. There are many reports on groups.google of early 90's
    Civics (1.5 Liter, no air conditioning, manual transmission) reaching 40+
    mpg. I checked. In addition, since someone else challenged me on this a
    while back, I have kept careful records for the last year of each fillup
    (almost alway over 8 gallons) and the mileage.
     
    Elle, Oct 10, 2005
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  6. He's going by EPA's estimates. EPA rated the 4th-gen Civic LX 5-speed at
    35mpg on the highway. I find that although EPA may overestimate mileage on
    some cars, they tend to underestimate mileage for Hondas. As I said before,
    my '93 Accord (automatic) gets much better highway mileage than EPA
    estimated, and I have seen many posts from others who get similar mileage.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Oct 10, 2005
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  7. mmdir2005

    Elle Guest

    Sure. I also agree with you that driving habits play a role. The EPA tests
    on a treadmill, too, right? Maybe it simulates hills, but it's still not as
    though it duplicates my driving habits and terrain.

    Plus I have a vague recollection of some chatter on the net about EPA
    testing being done only on young cars. I suspect there is some "break-in"
    that occurs that, with a properly maintained vehicle, will result in higher
    mileage from, say, 100k miles to 200k miles, vs. the fuel mileage pre-100k
    miles or so.

    For several months recently I was doing a lot of coasting on (not steep, not
    very long) hills, letting the RPM drop to idle, thinking I was saving gas.
    But I read here that the engine control system does xyz in idle which is not
    as efficient as keeping the RPMs higher (using engine braking) on a hill.
    Plus, in the last few months I also strive to keep the RPM under 3000 at all
    times (which means on the highway, I'm limited to about 65 mph, tops). These
    seem to have helped. I will continue the experiment and see if I can build
    higher statistical confidence in this theory with more data.

    For the record, I only started adding Chevron Techron last year, around 15k
    miles ago. It's really a gamble, but I figure it could not hurt. Perhaps my
    biggest motivation for adding it is that I had a severely plugged PCV valve
    (the original one, never been touched before) in 2003. Replacing it made a
    10-15% difference in mileage, consistent with discussion on the net and in
    Chilton's manuals. Now I inspect it every oil change and spray some PB
    Blaster into it. I plan to replace it every so often, like every seven
    years. If my car lasts that long.

    I have always been religious about oil changes. Did them at 3k-4k miles/6
    months for years but switched to 5k miles/6 months around 2000. Stayed on
    top of air filter, fuel filter, coolant, plug and wires, and timing belt
    changes, too, per the maintenance schedule. Always used unleaded regular
    gas.
     
    Elle, Oct 10, 2005
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  8. mmdir2005

    r2000swler Guest

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I found the device at this link
    <http://www.ggimages.com/rx7/pwm.html>
    to be a very nice additon. I had to build 2 because my Civic has
    DPFI, and you have to monitor both the primary and aux injector.
    It was very educational to see just when the primary and aux
    opened.

    I found that keeping the engine RPM low helped most of the time, but
    at times it was better to downshift and run at higher RPMs. Very
    counter intuitive.

    If you shop around you can build the whole thing for less then $10 a
    channel. For a multiport, IE 4 injectors, just monitor one, the
    ever so slight error is not worth another $30.


    Terry
     
    r2000swler, Oct 10, 2005
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