Fuel odor - Accord 92

Discussion in 'Accord' started by loukas, Nov 26, 2004.

  1. loukas

    loukas Guest

    I have a 92 Accord EX 4-door, manual transmission, with 100K miles on it. I
    get a very strong fuel odor when I start the car in the morning. On a cold
    engine it usually takes 3 times of turning the key to get the engine running
    and there always is a strong fuel odor.

    The odor comes on even if I don't start the engine but turn the ignition key
    enough to get the fuel pump working. If I let the odor dissipate (a few
    minutes), and then repeat the turn-key-no-engine-cranking procedure a couple
    of times, the third time I won't smell any fuel odor.

    I'd appreciate any help diagnosing this (fuel filter is new, pump has never
    been replaced, can't find any fuel leak, PCV valve is new, etc)

    Thanks
    Loukas
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    loukas, Nov 26, 2004
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  2. loukas

    Jeremy Guest

    Do you pump the gas pedal before start-up? Don't do it. Could also be
    your fuel pressure regulator dumping too much gas into the engine. any
    check engine lights on?
     
    Jeremy, Nov 26, 2004
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  3. loukas

    loukas Guest

    Jeremy,

    no, I don't pump the gas pedal and there no check engine lights coming on. I
    haven't checked the fuel pressure regulator yet; where would the vapors
    escape from? Thanks again.

    Loukas
     
    loukas, Nov 27, 2004
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  4. loukas

    motsco_ _ Guest

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    If your engine is flooding due to a stuck (open) injector, it will not
    start well. Holding the pedal to the floor is the suggested method in
    the manual if it really won't start. Read the pages about starting /
    cold weather / flooding.

    It doesn't sound like yours is very bad, but a can of Techron fuel
    injector cleaner might fix it up.

    Don't top up your tank either. Again, read your manual.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Nov 27, 2004
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  5. loukas

    Dave L Guest

    Pop your hood and check the fuel injectors. See if there is a fuel stain
    around the injectors/seals. If so you've got leaking injectors and it may
    be best to just replace the leaking injectors. You may also smell it more
    during cooler/cold weather or on a cold engine since heat can help expand
    the seals, keeping the fuel from leaking out.

    If your windows are rolled up I'll also guess you have the vents turned on
    with the outside air coming in. This is only a guess from a similar problem
    I had.

    -Dave
     
    Dave L, Nov 27, 2004
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  6. loukas

    Graham W Guest

    I hope you see the Check Engine Light at the point of turning the key to
    the run position (fuel pump run up)?
     
    Graham W, Nov 27, 2004
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  7. Accords of that vintage can rust out the fuel lines near the tank.
     
    Steve Bigelow, Nov 27, 2004
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  8. loukas

    loukas Guest

    Well, thanks to the collective advice (I really appreciate it), the problem
    has been narrowed to the number 2 and 4 injectors which leak. The leaking
    occurs only when the car has been sitting for a few hours and only when the
    fuel pump first engages. In other words, only when the engine is cold and
    only until the fuel lines are pressurized. I don't see any leak while the
    engine is running. Also, it is not always both of the injectors; sometimes
    is #2, sometime #4, and sometimes both.

    I guess the question is this: should I just replace the seals? In this
    model, there are 3 ring/seals and the injector seal kit is cheap. Should I
    replace the injectors too? (that now can get expensive).

    Thanks
    Loukas
     
    loukas, Nov 28, 2004
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  9. loukas

    Dave L Guest

    Also replaced the #2 and #4 OR #1 and #3 injectors. Don't remember which
    combination. I had the same question whether to "fix" the injectors or
    replace them. It was recommended they be replaced. I can say the car also
    runs better since they were replaced as well, so that may be something else
    to think about. Are you doing the work yourself or having a shop do it?

    Also with winter upon us you'll smell the fuel more than the summertime.
    You can close the outside air vent when starting the car to avoid the smell,
    but you should still fix the problem. Leaking fuel is not a good thing!

    -Dave
     
    Dave L, Nov 29, 2004
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  10. loukas

    motsco_ _ Guest


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    Just replace the seals, then run a couple of tanks of gasohol thru it to
    get rid of any gunk / water, before winter.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Nov 29, 2004
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