Glue for door vapor barrier

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Randolph, Mar 27, 2005.

  1. Randolph

    Randolph Guest

    I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
    Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
    that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
    find this type of adhesive?

    Thanks
     
    Randolph, Mar 27, 2005
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  2. Randolph

    Brian Smith Guest

    I don't know where you could find that off hand. I would think that a parts
    store would have it. Have you thought about using double faced tape?

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 27, 2005
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  3. Randolph

    Brian Smith Guest

    I don't know where you could find that off hand. I would think that a parts
    store would have it. Have you thought about using double faced tape?

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 27, 2005
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  4. Randolph

    John Ings Guest

    By vapour barrier I assume you mean the rubber weather strip.
    In my experience only one thing really works:
    <http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/automotive_aftermarket/node_GSN04SFBB0gs/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSLPLPKL4Xge/bgel_GSZSZ5F858bl/gvel_Q5D2V4SCM0gl/theme_us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html>

    Sorry about that rediculously long URL.
    It points to 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive 08001
    You should be able to find it at an automotive supply store like UAP
    It's a yellow color and incredibly sticky. We used to refer to it as
    "gorilla snot"
     
    John Ings, Mar 27, 2005
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  5. Randolph

    John Ings Guest

    By vapour barrier I assume you mean the rubber weather strip.
    In my experience only one thing really works:
    <http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/automotive_aftermarket/node_GSN04SFBB0gs/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSLPLPKL4Xge/bgel_GSZSZ5F858bl/gvel_Q5D2V4SCM0gl/theme_us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html>

    Sorry about that rediculously long URL.
    It points to 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive 08001
    You should be able to find it at an automotive supply store like UAP
    It's a yellow color and incredibly sticky. We used to refer to it as
    "gorilla snot"
     
    John Ings, Mar 27, 2005
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  6. I think the barrier he's talking about is the plastic sheet between the
    metal door and the interior panel. The stuff that holds it reminds me of
    plumber's putty but is much stickier. I'd still expect it to be a 3M product
    and it might be the same thing you describe. It definitely isn't rubber
    cement, which would stink and harden.

    Mike
    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Mar 27, 2005
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  7. I think the barrier he's talking about is the plastic sheet between the
    metal door and the interior panel. The stuff that holds it reminds me of
    plumber's putty but is much stickier. I'd still expect it to be a 3M product
    and it might be the same thing you describe. It definitely isn't rubber
    cement, which would stink and harden.

    Mike
    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Mar 27, 2005
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  8. I don't know that you necessarily need to use the OEM stuff for this
    sort of job. When replacing these barriers on various cars in the past
    I have used GE SiliconeII clear cauking and a butyl cauking made for
    sealing rain gutters. These were materials that I had tubes of availble
    for cauking around my house and sppear to have adhered strongly and
    sealed well. They certainly are made to withstand all types of weather
    and moisture exposure.

    Ken
     
    Kenneth J. Harris, Mar 27, 2005
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  9. I don't know that you necessarily need to use the OEM stuff for this
    sort of job. When replacing these barriers on various cars in the past
    I have used GE SiliconeII clear cauking and a butyl cauking made for
    sealing rain gutters. These were materials that I had tubes of availble
    for cauking around my house and sppear to have adhered strongly and
    sealed well. They certainly are made to withstand all types of weather
    and moisture exposure.

    Ken
     
    Kenneth J. Harris, Mar 27, 2005
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  10. Randolph

    motsco_ _ Guest

    The closest thing to that gooey stuff is black 'acoustic sealant' which
    is terribly messy. They use it to seal vapor barrier in houses, but it's
    awful stuff. :-( Comes off your hands with WD-40. If you knew you were
    NEVER going to open the door panel again, it might be OK. I just use a
    bit of contact cement on top of the old sealant that's in there, to
    reseal it. Since you're changing the whole gasket, you'll want something
    closer to the real stuff. Hopefully a person who works at a good stereo
    intallation place can tell you what to use.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Mar 27, 2005
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  11. Randolph

    motsco_ _ Guest

    The closest thing to that gooey stuff is black 'acoustic sealant' which
    is terribly messy. They use it to seal vapor barrier in houses, but it's
    awful stuff. :-( Comes off your hands with WD-40. If you knew you were
    NEVER going to open the door panel again, it might be OK. I just use a
    bit of contact cement on top of the old sealant that's in there, to
    reseal it. Since you're changing the whole gasket, you'll want something
    closer to the real stuff. Hopefully a person who works at a good stereo
    intallation place can tell you what to use.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Mar 27, 2005
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  12. Randolph

    John Ings Guest

    Ah! That's just called a 'plastic cover' in the shop manual, but I can
    see it's resemblence to vapour barrier. I think the 3M stuff would
    hold it though. The shop manual just says 'apply adhesive' without
    specifying what kind.
     
    John Ings, Mar 27, 2005
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  13. Randolph

    John Ings Guest

    Ah! That's just called a 'plastic cover' in the shop manual, but I can
    see it's resemblence to vapour barrier. I think the 3M stuff would
    hold it though. The shop manual just says 'apply adhesive' without
    specifying what kind.
     
    John Ings, Mar 27, 2005
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  14. It's the same goo that seals the windows and tail lights, if that helps
    you in your search.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Mar 27, 2005
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  15. It's the same goo that seals the windows and tail lights, if that helps
    you in your search.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Mar 27, 2005
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  16. Randolph

    Brian Smith Guest

    I haven't seen any goo around tailights in years. The seals are rubber.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 27, 2005
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  17. Randolph

    Brian Smith Guest

    I haven't seen any goo around tailights in years. The seals are rubber.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 27, 2005
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  18. Randolph

    Randolph Guest

    Yes, the plastic sheet is what I am talking about. On the car in
    question the sheet was held in place with an adhesive similar to what
    you find on packing tape. After 17 years, it is now a slimy goo that
    does not hold the sheet in place. I was hoping to find the the stuff
    Honda uses, it seems to hold up very well over the years.

    =======================================================
    A very modest collection of Honda tech info can be found at:
    http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph
     
    Randolph, Mar 28, 2005
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  19. Randolph

    Randolph Guest

    Yes, the plastic sheet is what I am talking about. On the car in
    question the sheet was held in place with an adhesive similar to what
    you find on packing tape. After 17 years, it is now a slimy goo that
    does not hold the sheet in place. I was hoping to find the the stuff
    Honda uses, it seems to hold up very well over the years.

    =======================================================
    A very modest collection of Honda tech info can be found at:
    http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph
     
    Randolph, Mar 28, 2005
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  20. Randolph

    WaterWatcher Guest

    I've used plastic packaging tape for that with good results.

    WW
     
    WaterWatcher, Mar 28, 2005
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