GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Don't Taze Me, Bro!, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....

    The best quote:
    "We either need to change this company or have the Japanese come in and run
    the whole place," John Lauve


    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080603/gm_shareholders.html?.v=5
     
    Don't Taze Me, Bro!, Jun 4, 2008
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    Dan C Guest

    Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?

    <snip>
     
    Dan C, Jun 4, 2008
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    Jeff Guest


    Actually, as one who has a lot of money tied up in the stock market (but
    little in GM, I have to say that Don't Taze Me, Bro has a point.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 4, 2008
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  4. Umm, for thinking the shareholders should not suffer losing money while the
    GM Chief is paid an insane amount of money?

    How did you get "socialist democrat" from thinking the shareholders should
    be treated right?

    Folks, above, I would like you observe what it is like to be brainwashed by
    one of the various political sides. Anytime a company gets questioned about
    ethics, there is always an extreme conservative who thinks it is socialist
    to suggest a company have such.
     
    Don't Taze Me, Bro!, Jun 4, 2008
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    Dan C Guest

    It's a fact of life, Junior. Sometimes shareholders lose money. That's
    the way the stock market and the free enterprise system works. As for the
    CEO making an "insane" amount of money... well, it's certainly more than
    other GM employees make, but that's (also) how things work. Those in
    charge get paid more. Simple fact of life. Perhaps if you had more
    education, you could make some money, yourself!
    Because your post is a textbook example of Lib-think, which is thinly
    disguised socialism, where you believe everyone should make the same
    income, and share everything amongst each other equally. That isn't how
    it works here in the USA, thank god. Go visit the (former) East Bloc if
    you'd like to see how well that system works.
    Wrong. It's socialist to complain that the boss makes more than you do.
    Get a clue, and stay in school, boy. Someday maybe you'll be a CEO....
    well, that's not too likely, but perhaps you can get out of the fast food
    joint.
     
    Dan C, Jun 4, 2008
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    why haven't the SHAREHOLDERS corrrected this?
    it's socialist/communist to think that involving Government in regulating
    such affairs is the solution. Or any sort of "excess profit" taxation.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jun 4, 2008
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    jim beam Guest

    troll
     
    jim beam, Jun 4, 2008
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  8. Okay, you go to plonky town.. Buh Bye! PLONK
     
    Don't Taze Me, Bro!, Jun 4, 2008
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    Larry in AZ Guest

    Hey shit-for-brains... For presiding over a $39 Billion loss, he got a 64
    percent raise.
     
    Larry in AZ, Jun 4, 2008
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    Larry in AZ Guest

    You don't have to be a socialist/lib/democrat to see a fraud like the one at
    GM...
     
    Larry in AZ, Jun 4, 2008
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    jim beam Guest

    let's see how this works:

    1. you repeatedly troll.

    2. i call you on it.

    3. you stick your head in the sand.

    doesn't seem very smart. or social. but i guess problems with social
    interaction are why you're trolling in the first place.
     
    jim beam, Jun 4, 2008
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  12. Here is a fact for you. Rick Wagoner, CEO of GM got total
    compensation last year of over $14 million. That is more than the
    compensation of the CEO and the 36 board members of Honda Motor
    Company combined. Honda had record sales last month. How is GM
    doing? Oh, that's right, the death spiral thing - never mind.

    Anyway, US executives are paid obscene amounts of money not just in
    comparison to "other employees," but compared to their foreign
    counterparts. Hard to see the value here. The truth is that American
    companies are - more and more - being run for the benefit of the
    executives rather than the stockholders or, god forbid, the mainstream
    workers.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Jun 4, 2008
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  13. Not much risk of that with GM involved.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Jun 4, 2008
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    Gib Bogle Guest

    Who mentioned the government?
     
    Gib Bogle, Jun 4, 2008
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  15. I'm sure Republican shareholders are just as pissed off as anyone else.

    You know that. But you needed to say something. Anything. Even if it made no
    sense.
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jun 4, 2008
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    As I said....
    that is the usual demand;for Gov't to regulate something,when other means
    of control are not achievable.

    Since shareholders are not forcing "appropriate" CEO salaries or denying
    unearned bonuses,what other way is there?
     
    Jim Yanik, Jun 4, 2008
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    and shareholders (and the BOD) allowed it.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jun 4, 2008
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    and whose fault is that?
    Do you suggest "there oughta be a law against it"?

    BTW,companies are not run for the benefit of workers.
    They are run for making a profit for their owners.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jun 4, 2008
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    hachiroku Guest

    PKB...
     
    hachiroku, Jun 4, 2008
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    hachiroku Guest

    But I like reading drivel from morons!
     
    hachiroku, Jun 4, 2008
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