Greasing ball-joints

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by George Macdonald, Apr 11, 2005.

  1. Hi all - haven't been here in a while and I really don't have time to post
    regularly again but I thought it'd be worth posting this one... which I'd
    been trying to figure for a while.

    My '92 Integra (soon to be sold/traded or whatever) developed a creak in a
    ball joint - only when weather was really cold and only over big road
    irregularities like in some parking lots, so I figured it was just dry and
    wanted to get some fresh grease in all the joints before wear set in.

    I'd tried once before with a grease gun + needle adapter... by bending the
    needle into a near-hook shape and trying to force it in through the
    narrow-end collar of the boot, at the stud. I'd had success with that with
    a VW years ago but the Honda rubber boot is just too tight against the stud
    and it was obvious that if I persisted I'd tear or pierce the boot.

    This creak was annoying the hell out of me so I determined to give it
    another go - no amount of finessing would get the needle in from the stud
    end of the boot and I didn't want to just pierce the boot, so I tried from
    the other (wide) end of the boot and it worked:

    You need a grease gun and needle adapter which is available at most auto
    parts stores - I have an old Wanner (actually a knock-off copy) trigger gun
    which worked fine. The wide end of the Honda rubber boot has a spring
    retaining clip which holds the boot's collar in a groove in the metal of
    the ball-joint casing and that's where you want to get the needle in.
    First I blunted the needle point with a file quite a bit, since you don't
    want the thing piercing the rubber; then I cleaned around the rubber/metal
    with a toothbrush and sprayed some silicone - prying, with a small
    screwdriver inserted between the metal & rubber, against the spring clip
    helps get the silicone into the crack, ready for the needle.

    It helps to get the needle past the clip if the needle has a slight bend in
    it .5" or so back from the tip and then, going at a slight angle off
    perpendicular to the spring clip, I used a "technique" my dentist uses to
    get the novocaine needle in between tooth and gum... you know those ones
    where they go really deep (UGH)... he does this wobble (almost a vibration)
    with the hand holding the syringe and so, pushing firmly and "wobbling", it
    worked to get the needle in past the clip. Now all you have to do is pump
    in the grease, extract and check the clip seating.

    Once I'd figured it out I did the five remaining joints in 20 minutes or
    so.
     
    George Macdonald, Apr 11, 2005
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  2. George Macdonald

    TeGGer® Guest



    That creak is usually the road spring moving in its seat, not the ball
    joint. It eventually goes away if the car is driven long enough. I've never
    heard of the ball joint creaking. When they get rusty, they seize and SNAP!

    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/lowerballjoint/index.html
     
    TeGGer®, Apr 11, 2005
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  3. George Macdonald

    TeGGer® Guest



    Hey! didn't notice your name at first! Welcome back.
     
    TeGGer®, Apr 11, 2005
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  4. George Macdonald

    motsco_ _ Guest

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    Welcome Back ! !

    We thought you were DEAD, or WORSE, (sold your Hondas and got a VW)

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Apr 11, 2005
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  5. George Macdonald

    John Guest

    The same thing happened to me driving down the road in my 95 GTI VR6. The
    driver's side balljoint snapped, the whole axle came out of the tranny, but
    I could still steer it (I was going 25mph). No one got injured and there was
    only minor damage to the car.

    John
     
    John, Apr 12, 2005
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  6. Nope, I know what a spring creak sounds like - I've described it often
    enough here in the past... and its uhh, temporary cure.:)
     
    George Macdonald, Apr 12, 2005
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  7. When I see the volume of msgs in this group, many on their 1000th or more
    repeat, I'm reminded why I couldn't keep up with it.
     
    George Macdonald, Apr 13, 2005
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  8. George Macdonald

    Pars Guest

    Hey George. Welcome back. Didn't you have 2000 Si(R)?

    Pars
     
    Pars, Apr 13, 2005
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  9. Nope - current inventory: 1) '92 Integra GS(my all-time favorite Honda...
    err, Acura) which my daughter uses; 2) '99 Integra GS (s'OK); 2K Accord EX
    Coupe (nice car for my wife).

    The '92 Integra has a lot of recently replaced stuff (timing belt,
    radiator, front springs/shocks, distributor, all coolant hoses, brake
    calipers, etc) but it's getting beyond my desire/ability to maintain - some
    corrosion showing on the rear hatch and drive shafts and clutch will be
    coming up so I want to get rid of it. I can't make up my mind what to get
    next - maybe RSX... dunno if I want to spring for Type S on cost *or*
    insurance.
     
    George Macdonald, Apr 14, 2005
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