green antifreeze in my 93 civic

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Robert Reynolds, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. Robert Reynolds

    Tegger Guest



    Never did it.

    I have been keeping extremely close observation of my oil consumption
    over the last year or so. Excessive oil consumption was the primary
    reason I was considering an engine replacement, so I wanted to perform a
    rigorously controlled study of just what was getting sucked though the
    motor.

    Well.

    It's been roughly 1,500 miles per quart for a long time (I determine
    this after correcting for an earlier error in interpreting dipstick
    markings).

    Very lately consumption has been DECREASING.

    In November it was 1,500 mi/qt.
    In December it was 1,800 mi/qt.

    I just checked it now, the proverbial bell having rung to indicate it
    was time for another reading. I checked, then checked again. And again.
    I even went pessimistic on my dipstick reading.
    It's 2,500 mi/qt. At least.

    I do not know what's going on here. Each year there is a decrease
    corresponding to the winter drop in ambient temperatures, but this is
    the most consumption has declined in several years. And this has not
    been a particularly cold winter.

    Some time ago I posted a query to rec.autos.tech about this, and it was
    suggested to me that I probably had a collapsed oil control ring spacer.
    In such a case, there would be sudden increase in oil usage, then the
    piston groove would eventually carbon up and usage would decline. Maybe
    this is the explanation.

    Without having X-Ray vision and being able to see inside the engine,
    this is a real mystery,
     
    Tegger, Jan 26, 2008
    #21
  2. Robert Reynolds

    jim beam Guest

    you've changed oil though haven't you? my 89 civic used to burn regular
    oil but that's dropped dramatically using mobil 1. and it continues to
    drop too.

    i have two theories.

    1. there's less volatile fraction in the base oil of m1 to evaporate.
    [regular oil is a mix of weights. the light ones are easier to boil off.]

    2. i read about piston aero engine oil not having viscosity modifiers
    because they tend to ash around the piston rings. if this is the case,
    and m1 is proving to be a very effective cleaner of my previously
    resined up engine, i can see it getting rid of piston ring deposits
    allowing them to seal better again.

    i'm basing 1 on what i know to be fact about the mix and basic
    chemistry. 2, i'm guessing, but i don't buy the collapsed ring spacer -
    that would make consumption go to heck, and it wouldn't start to seal
    after time - it would just continue to deteriorate.

    but for sure, my experience of m1 is the same as yours.
     
    jim beam, Jan 26, 2008
    #22
  3. Robert Reynolds

    z Guest

    could be just plain old chemistry. oil contains various 'seal
    swellers' and undoubtedly every brand has its own concoction, maybe
    the brew in Mobil 1 just happens to suit what your engine needs better
    than other brands. just handwaving here, but given mobil 1's ability
    to creep and leak, could be they even put in a more powerful sweller
    to keep things under control, relying on the increased lubrication of
    the oil to keep the seals from wearing more when swelled.
     
    z, Jan 28, 2008
    #23
  4. Robert Reynolds

    z Guest

    well, even 1500 miles isn't too bad. i'm going through a quart of oil
    every gas fillup or two, but that's just because my vtec solenoid is
    spraying oil like a texas gusher.
     
    z, Jan 28, 2008
    #24
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