Greenbox device captures carbon dioxide from your tail-pipe to make biodiesel

Read about it at http://Muvy.org

 

M'kay. Lemme see now...

You want to make hydrocarbons from oxycarbons.

Where is the hydrogen going to come from? How will you crack the hydrogen
from its chemical prison? How will you split the oxygen from the carbon in
the first place? And how will you bind the relevant chemicals together so
as to create the needed cetanes?

And can you do all this in any sort of economically plausible manner?

 

Wot's a cetane?

As for the rest, simply break up one oxygen atom into eight hydrogen
atoms, save the excess neutrons as neutronium, and live on the
interest! I'm sure the zero-point energy of the other oxygen atom can
be used to catalyze the reaction. And the excess gamma radiation can
charge your cell-phone batteries!

Any questions, I'll be down in engineering working on the phaser
controls.

J.

 

Hmmm...I wonder...

I found a bunch of old lead piping and plumbing fixtures from when the
house was 'converted' to copper plumbing. I wonder if the OP has something
that can turn it into gold for me...

 

What diesel is made of.

10-4, Scotty.

 

Biodiesel isn't made with Carbon Dioxide. I couldn't find the article, just
a poor attempt at generating clicks.

 

Sure it is, all life is made from H2O and CO2 or carbonates.

 

Biodiesel is life?

Wow, you've discovered a new form of life.

Congrats.

Cheers,

Rich

 

Fucking retard. Did you parents wack you head every day?

 

Why, did yours?

Cheers,

Rich

 

Biodiesel is made from lye, alcohol, and vegetable oil, none of which can be
produced from CO2 in a magic box. Your comments may be par for an alt group,
but not a sci group. The website we were pushed to was an aggregator of
other peoples news intended to provide click counts for money. A specific
link to the article might have been more helpful, but who knows.

 

Clearly, you have a lack of understanding of the English language.
Bio=Life. BioDiesel is a product made from Biological means. Plants,
generally. So, yes, BioDiesel has to follow the rules of biology.
Therefore, the statement that all life is made from H20 and CO2 was quite
relevant to BioDiesel...

 

Biodiesel is made from once-living oil seeds, you fucking enviro mental.
Apparently all enviros have absolutely no knowledge of life science, like the definition of "life".
It does NOT matter if plants get their CO2 from the air or whatever, it's all the same carbon.

 

http://www.boulderbiodiesel.com/biodiesel/index.jsp

[...]

How to make Biodiesel
Making biodiesel is a very simple process. To power our vehicles, we need to reduce the viscosity of
the vegetable oil. Basically the vegetable oil needs to be mixed, given time to settle, then
drained. There are literally millions of different ways this can be done.

Vegetable oil is a tri-glyceride, that’s three vegetable molecules, or esters, attached to one
molecule of glycerin. Glycerin is what makes vegetable oil thick and sticky. To make biodiesel, we
want to remove the glycerin and replace it with an alcohol. This is the process of
transestrification. The alcohol we use is methanol.

To initiate the biodiesel reaction, we need a catalyst. Vegetable oil is an acid, so to ‘break’ the
vegetable oil molecule, we add a strong base. For this we use Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH) also known as
lye. The amount of lye is constant when using new vegetable oil, but used cooking oil varies due to
the amount of Free Fatty Acids (FFAs) from heating the oil. To determine the amount of FFAs, we
perform a titration.

Use Extreme Caution:
Methanol is Flammable and Dissolves Rubber
Lye can Damage Skin, Eyes, and Lungs
Both Can Be Fatal if Swallowed

The Titration
When using virgin oil of any type, the amount of lye used in a biodiesel reaction equals about 1.0%
of the weight of vegetable oil. This amounts to 3.5 grams per liter of vegetable oil. Used cooking
oil, however, is more acidic than new vegetable oil, as heating vegetable oil creates free fatty
acids. Free fatty acids clog your arteries as well as your fuel lines and need to be neutralized in
the biodiesel process. These acids float freely amongst the triglycerides and attach themselves to
anything that is basic, such as lye. So, a titration is performed in order to determine the total
amount of catalyst to be added.

Isopropyl alcohol is used in the titration, rather than methanol, as it will not react with the
vegetable oil. The isopropyl alcohol keeps the vegetable oil in solution.

Careful: it is easy to make a mistake
To avoid errors, perform three titrations, this will help you when making larger batches.
Don’t be stuck with 50 gallons of wasted fuel!

1. Dissolve 1 gram of lye into 1 liter of distilled water
2. Dissolve 1 milliliter of vegetable oil into 10 milliliters of isopropyl alcohol
3. Drop the lye solution into the dilluted vegetable oil while measuring the pH one milliliter at a time
4. When the pH rises to 8 or 9, the free fatty acids have been neutralized

The number of milliliters added to the vegetable oil equals the number of grams of lye per liter of
vegetable oil that need to be added in the biodiesel reaction. This needs to be added to the 3.5
grams per liter required for the reaction. If you added 1.5 milliliters of lye/water solution to
your oil/alcohol in the titration, it would require 5 grams of lye per liter of vegetable used. The
amount will generally vary in between 4.5 to 6.5 grams depending on your source of feedstock.

Making Biodiesel
Biodiesel can be made in a blender, a soda bottle, or a 1,000 gallon mixing tank. The only
difference is the size of the containers and the amount of feedstock used. This section contains the
details on how to make a small batch of biodiesel. When making larger amounts, just use the same
proportions, mixing them in larger containers.

Making biodiesel requires vegetable oil, alcohol and a catalyst. The alcohol can be either ethanol
or methanol; the catalyst can be lye (NaOH) or potassium hydroxide (KOH). When using different
alcohol or catalysts, different proportions need to be added. For simplicity, this section only
contains the amounts for the most commonly available materials: methanol and lye. Mixing methanol
and lye creates sodium methoxide, which is then mixed with the vegetable oil to create biodiesel and
glycerin.

How to make 1 liter of biodiesel
1. Perform a titration to determine the amount of lye needed
2. Dissolve the lye into 200 milliliters of methanol
3. Mix the sodium methoxide with 1 liter of vegetable oil for 20 minutes
4. Allow the glycerin to settle for at least 8 hours. Most of the separation occurs after the first
hour, so you will see immediate progress.
5. Separate the biodiesel from the glycerin
6. Drive!

We hope that you stay involved in the future development of sustainable technology. Please consider
becoming a member of Boulder Biodiesel and join our discussion forum. We often have vehicles for
sale, can help you with vehicle conversions, fuel making, and presentations. Help us convert every
diesel vehicle to Biodiesel!

 

No, you stupid ****. Plants make biofuels. We modify them, but that's irrelevant.

 

No, some plants make oils, we convert said oils (also animal oils) to biofuels,
or salad dressing, as the case may be.

I understand that the aircraft engine oils used diring WW twice were
vegatable oils BTW.

Cheers,

Rich

 

Wow, 4 posts, this thread degenerated in an amazing hurry.

 

There is no conversion of the oil. Biodiesel is plant or algae oil.
Plants make fatty acids attached to glycerin, we remove the glycerin.

 

So what's your point of contention?

Cheers,

Rich

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http://www.biodieselathome.net/Biodiesel_Production_At_Home.html

Biodiesel Production At Home

In the search for a cleaner, cheaper alternative to traditional petroleum based fuels, people have
been turned onto the idea of biodiesel. Biodiesel is a vegetal oil based fuel. Unlike other
vegetable based fuels, though, biodiesel can be used in any diesel engine without modifications.
Biodiesel production is also cleaner and cheaper then the production of other fuels.

Biodiesel burns clean, which means it does not harm the environment and contribute to pollution.
Biodiesel production is also a clean process which does not involve the risks that traditional
petroleum based fuel production does.

The biodiesel production process involves four simple steps. To make biodiesel you start by making
sodium monoxide. You then mix that with the oil and allow the byproduct to separate out. You then
clean the fuel and it is ready for use. Biodiesel production is not complex and it actually
something you can do at home.

The biodiesel production process is called transesterification. This is done both on a large scale
by manufacturers and on a smaller scale in garages across the country by average, everyday people,
like you.

The fact that the biodiesel production process is so simple is one of the things that draws so many
people to biodiesel. The only risk when making biodiesel is when working with the hot oil. As long
as you are aware of the fact that you must be careful with the oil, then you face virtually no risk
during the production process.

In order to make biodiesel you will need lye, alcohol and vegetable oil. The vegetable oil can be
new or used. If used you should clean it of any debris. Mix the lye and alcohol which will foam
during the chemical reaction, making sodium menoxide. You then mix the sodium monoxide and
vegetable oil, let the byproduct, glycerin, separate out and then clean the biodiesel. The cleaning
process can be done with a plastic bottle, some duct tape and some water. It is easy and once the
biodiesel is one you can use it in your car.

Biodiesel production really is that simple. It is something anyone can do and something many people
are already doing. Using biodiesel is a great choice.

Biodiesel production is nothing like the production process for traditional fuels. There is no risk
of explosion or harmful vapors. Biodiesel is safe, so safe, in fact that it has been proven less
toxic then table salt. Biodiesel production can be done in your own home, although most people
prefer to do it in outside in a building like a garage. Biodiesel is definitely the fuel of the
future and you can get started using it today with your own biodiesel production at home.

 

Do you have a cite for us showing this box works, or are you wasting our
time?