head light switch, tail lights won't turn off

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ||, Jul 1, 2006.

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    || Guest

    I have a 1993 Honda Civic DX two door. I need to replace the light
    switch located in the steering wheel column. I am doing this because
    the tail light won't turn off and I checked all the fuses and am left
    with this as the problem. This car has an airbag. I would like to
    know if I have to remove the steering wheel and if so do I need any
    special tools? Is this a difficult task and is my assessment correct?
    Is their a website with any information on how to do this?

    Lex
     
    ||, Jul 1, 2006
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    Spaz Guest

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    My Ford never gave me problems like that.
     
    Spaz, Jul 1, 2006
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    Alan Guest

    http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/14/1d/e3/0900823d80141de3.jsp

    Courtesy of Autozon
    Repair Guide.

    1992-95 Models

    WARNING
    All SRS wire harnesses are covered with a yellow insulation. Read the
    SRS precautions found in this section and install the short connectors
    as described.



    1. Disconnect the negative battery cable and disable the SRS system.

    2. Remove the upper and lower steering column covers.

    3. Disconnect the 4-pin and 7-pin connectors from the switch.

    4. Remove the switch retaining screws and slide the switch from its
    mount.

    To install:

    5. Install the new switch in position and connect the electrical leads.

    6. Install the upper and lower steering column covers.

    7. Disconnect the short connectors and connect the negative and
    positive battery cable.
     
    Alan, Jul 1, 2006
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    Patrick Guest

    Some recommendations on disabling the air bag include disconnecting the
    battery and removing SRS fuses and letting it sit for 10-15 minutes before
    proceeding. I don't know if it is actually necessary but when you are going
    to be working next to an explosive device a little extra precaution doesn't
    hurt.
     
    Patrick, Jul 1, 2006
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    || Guest

    Patrick and Alan tahnks for the help, Lex
     
    ||, Jul 5, 2006
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    Alan Guest

    Good point.... that's why I still have my catcher's mask from pony
    league.
     
    Alan, Jul 5, 2006
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    NHAnimator Guest

    Yes, the 10-15 minutes IS necessary. The SRS system will stay active
    after power is cut for a short amount of time. Reason being: If you
    collide with something and the battery is destroyed or power is
    otherwise cut, you still want the airbag to deploy if necessary. It all
    happens very fast, but the data recorder will function and order the
    bag to go off until the capacitors drain (correct verbage?).
     
    NHAnimator, Jul 7, 2006
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    ExtremeValue Guest

    One of my friends has a Ford whose radio never shuts down, even if you
    switch your ignition off. That's why he had to do some wiered things (I
    don't remember because I did not have car that time and hence did not
    care about that) in order to prevent the battery from draining down.
     
    ExtremeValue, Jul 8, 2006
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    || Guest

    The Final Solution:

    So I got some interesting and good news. I hope this will help others.
    My initial diagnosis was incorrect. The tails lights I thought
    initially was on but I was wrong. Upon closer examination I noticed
    with someone stepping on the brake that the lights would not change so
    it was the brake lights that were on. I had to check for sure by
    replacing the bulb in the middle of the rear window to see if this
    stays on, and it did. Some of the things that made this diagnosis
    difficult was due to day light. I did it during the day and all the
    bulbs were not functional.

    I disconnected the wires from the light switch to see if that would
    disable the lights, and it did not. So it was obvious that was not the
    problem, because that had nothing to do with the brakes but I wanted to
    check for some stupid reason. The next thing I did was look at the
    brake peddle to see how the brake light switch works. There is this
    little black button that is pressed when the brake pedal is not
    pressed. When you press the brakes it allows the button to push out
    and turn the lights on. So I placed my screwdriver between the pedal
    and the button and took a look at the light. The lights were off. I
    knew then that the brake switch worked and my diagnosis is precise.
    Upon close examination of the brake pedal I noticed a hole in the
    pedal. I though something has to go there that pushes against the
    button. So I went to the junk yard and looked and there it was a
    little rubber triangle shaped piece. I popped it out and placed it in
    the Honda Civic and everything is good.

    Thanks for the help everyone.

    Honda subsystems are reliable and I am happy this was so simple.

    Lex
     
    ||, Jul 9, 2006
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