Headlight R&R: '95 Civic EX Sedan

Discussion in 'Civic' started by mjc13, Jun 21, 2007.

  1. mjc13

    mjc13 Guest

    So, the Chilton manual I've eagerly awaited for two weeks finally
    came in the mail, and guess what? It says *absolutely nothing* about
    replacing the headlight assembly - it just shows how to replace either a
    sealed beam unit or halogen bulb. So what I *really* need (hopefully
    today) is for someone to either list a step-by-step procedure, or link
    me to one online. I'd really appreciate it, as I work Fri-Sun nights,
    and was hoping to use the car this weekend...

    I never thought I'd write this, but I wish I'd gotten the Haynes
    manual, instead.
     
    mjc13, Jun 21, 2007
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  2. Both Chilton and Haynes are brutal. Bite the bullet and get the Helm
    manual.

    I think the URL is http://www.helminc.com
     
    High Tech Misfit, Jun 21, 2007
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    mjc13 Guest


    Too late for that for this job. Are there no procedures online, or
    someone who can dash one off for me? I know I'm unknown in this group,
    but I've helped a lot of people with Volvo problems over the years...
     
    mjc13, Jun 21, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    You have to remove the front bumper.
    <http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/manual_scans/civic/92-95_civic_front_bumper_removal.pdf>

    There are bolts at the bottom of the headlamp that hold it
    to the rad support. You cannot get at those until the bumper is off.

    Haynes and Chilton are both shit. Get a Helm manual. It's the real thing.
     
    Tegger, Jun 21, 2007
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  5. mjc13

    mjc13 Guest


    Thanks for the diagram. I'm not clear on the spoiler: does the EX
    have it, and what are the fasteners holding it on? And, most
    importantly, can I do this without removing all the bumper components
    completely? Can I get to the headlight bolts by lowering the left and
    center of the bumper? I'm not sure I'm up to completely removing and
    replacing a bumper I've never worked on. That "about $50" the dealer
    quoted is becoming more appealing...
     
    mjc13, Jun 21, 2007
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    Elle Guest

    A free online factory service manual for your Civic is
    linked at http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html. Go
    to the electrical section, then exterior lights, etc. I see
    a one page set of instsructions for your job. It still may
    not be sufficient, but take a look.

    Chilton's is superior to Haynes and often just duplicates
    the factory service manual, in my experience.
     
    Elle, Jun 21, 2007
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    Lynn McGuire Guest

    So, the Chilton manual I've eagerly awaited for two weeks finally
    I did the following steps a couple of weeks ago to replace the front
    passenger side turn signal bulb in my daughter's 97 Civic EX,
    hopefully the 95 civic is not much different:
    1. raise the hood and secure it
    2. stare at the headlight assembly looking at the turn signal bulb with
    it's tail extending into the area between the outside fender and
    inside fender whilest saying, "I cant believe it is this tough"
    3. remove the top three screws holding the headlight assembly in
    place, assembly will not move yet
    4. discover another screw on the right side of assembly, remove it
    by sticking arm up air slot in front fender, assembly now moves
    a little bit
    5. turn front tires to the left
    6. remove all screws and pushdowns on front bumper cover left side
    7. discover and remove another screw holding headlight assembly
    above tire, assembly will now pull out with great difficulty
    8. remove bulb from assembly and replace with new bulb
    9. reverse steps for reassembly

    This took 3 hours to figure out plus the trip to O'Reilly for the bulb.

    Lynn
     
    Lynn McGuire, Jun 21, 2007
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  8. mjc13

    mjc13 Guest

    Exactly what I need - thanks! As for the Chilton manual, this one
    covers Civic, 1984-1995, and is of little use. As I said, there is
    nothing at all on replacing the headlight unit. The online manual
    doesn't show disassembly of the bumper like Tegger's did - just nine
    screws and bolts, and it supposedly comes off in one piece. I hope....
     
    mjc13, Jun 21, 2007
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    mjc13 Guest

    Heh. I think maybe the bumper should come off. Plus they changed the
    body after '95... At least you know how to do it more quickly next time.
     
    mjc13, Jun 21, 2007
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  10. mjc13

    mjc13 Guest


    Thanks for the help, folks, especially Elle. The bumper R&R wasn't
    especially hard, in part because it had been damaged previously (I knew
    this when I bought it) and the lower bolts now don't have to be removed
    - they now only hold on two rectangles of plastic. ;-) One of the side
    clips was tricky, because the previous owner had replaced it with an,
    er, aftermarket clip. And to aim that light it *really* helps to have a
    Snake Drive or similar flexible drive, as they have designed it so you
    can see the aiming screw but can't get most kinds of drives onto it.
    Happily I have a snake drive. For those wondering if the light can be
    replaced without removing the whole bumper, I'd say "probably, but not
    easily, and only with someone helping you."

    Now, having saved about $130 (funny how the labor estimate shoots up
    when you are providing the part!), maybe I can afford to have a Major
    Service by the dealer, sans timing belt and water pump, which will have
    to wait another year or 18 months. If that doesn't improve the
    performance, and I still fail to sell my '86 Si, I may sell the EX in
    the Fall and put the Si back on the road...
     
    mjc13, Jun 22, 2007
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