Help buy car for 19 yr old college student?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by me6, Apr 11, 2004.

  1. Trust me when I say it's high. I'm ready to pay the 6 month premium, 17
    Which is why you should put the car in your name and add the minor to your
    policy.

    No, it's not. It's the 17 year old that's the ball buster.





    How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

    1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
    2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
    3. Hold button til light goes out
     
    He Hate Retards, Apr 12, 2004
    #21
  2. Why not teach him?
     
    Timothy J. Lee, Apr 12, 2004
    #22
  3. Small cars often have unfavorable driver demographics (i.e. they attract
    drivers who crash more often). Coupes are often more expensive to insure
    than sedans for similar reasons. Wagons and minivans are often less
    expensive to insure. But call your insurance company and ask for rates
    before you decide which car to buy.
     
    Timothy J. Lee, Apr 12, 2004
    #23
  4. Instead of whining about how expensive a car is to insure, they should think
    about comparison shopping for insurance. In my case, I was quoted anywhere from
    $1500-$4000 for my Lexus.

    Few years back, I remember Saturn owners bragging about how low their insurance
    rates were compared to Hondas.... but according to my own investigation, my
    Acura Integra (2 door) was only about $130 a year more than a Saturn SC2. Since
    I wouldn't be caught dead in an overpriced Sackofcrapurn, I was happy to buy
    and drive a car I liked. Don't let insurance determine what you drive, if it
    did, everyone would be driving a Ford Taurus!





    How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

    1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
    2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
    3. Hold button til light goes out
     
    He Hate Retards, Apr 12, 2004
    #24
  5. IME insurance industry does not count responsibility of young drivers - age
    just puts them in the "pool" along with everybody else.
    Civic has a bad rap in the insurance industry because of the history of all
    the boy-racer, stuff. It was just a popular car for young people to get
    and then add "performance bits" as $$ became available. The new model may
    change that since it's not so amenable to suspension tweaks but it may take
    a bit of time for data to filter through the system.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Apr 13, 2004
    #25
  6. Of course. NO young person wants a Volvo 240.(evil grin)

    OTOH, you're paying the bills. Let him save and get his own
    hot-rod after college.
    His desire is moot. When he can load a keg(oh, did I say, that? -
    we all were there - lol) into the wagon and get to the party,
    he'll appreciate it. :)

    Or when he has to move across town. Or when he's going to that
    rock concert and can take his sleeping bag and rough it.

    Plus, it's actually retro AND - press this point, old mint
    condition 240s are a girl magnet. They look "cute" and
    attract the artsy types :) Man - that one red-head in college...
    (well, that's another story...)
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Apr 13, 2004
    #26
  7. Time to learn :) The auto isn't bad, actually.
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Apr 13, 2004
    #27
  8. me6

    Keith J Guest

    "Sackofcrapurn"... LOL!!! Excellent new word and fitting. :)

    (BTW: HHR... one of your best yet! Love it. My stomach hurt I laughed so
    hard. My brother had one of them and will love that word as well.... thank
    you!)
     
    Keith J, Apr 13, 2004
    #28
  9. Used does not require full coverage. Cash is good that way :)
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Apr 13, 2004
    #29
  10. A follwup - I was busy tonight.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31877&item=2472709598
    That's a typical low mileage example in mint condition.

    The Anthracite Grey(I forget the exact color code/name) is perhaps
    one of the most attractive colors to find one in - it really makes
    the car look sharp. Compared to new cars, this also looks almost
    retro.

    Any car in this condition would make your son pleased as can be.
    Mine was the same color but a sedan, in the exact same condition.
    It felt like a new Mercedes every time I got into it - not a single
    thing was wrong on it, scuffed, or broken. I had no problems
    parking it at fancy locations, either. Yet, it was a Volvo 240
    and I could get around and park it where I wanted without
    fearing thieves.
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Apr 13, 2004
    #30
  11. me6

    me6 Guest

    Plus, it's actually retro AND - press this point, old mint
    Joseph.... you make VERY good points!

    Heck you've even got me to start looking and thinking abt a Volvo. lol
    Seriously.

    I will try and make him "see" the logic of what you suggest. he is
    actually more receptive than most kids his age to "logic".
     
    me6, Apr 13, 2004
    #31
  12. me6

    ravelation Guest

    From: (He Hate Retards) wrote;
    The quoted price is for the car in our name on our policy. It's just
    dang expensive to insure a teen in a Civic Coupe. We use 21st Century
    Ins.
    True dat. But the combo is deadly to the pocketbook.
     
    ravelation, Apr 13, 2004
    #32
  13. me6

    ravelation Guest

    We have assets that could be gone after, which is why I prefer to take
    it bending over from the Insurance Co. My son's risk of injuring others
    is high right now. I don't want anyone going after our 'stuff' because
    their kid got hurt in our car. And I'm not quite ready to write off a
    '99 if'n he is responsible for the accident.
     
    ravelation, Apr 13, 2004
    #33
  14. The quoted price is for the car in our name on our policy. It's just


    Try esurance.com.

    I got a brand new sports car when I was 17 but don't remember my parents
    complaining.





    How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

    1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
    2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
    3. Hold button til light goes out
     
    He Hate Retards, Apr 13, 2004
    #34
  15. me6

    E. Meyer Guest

    Wrong! Its usually cheaper to buy and old wreck and put the kid on it with
    insurance than to add them to your policy. Been there. Currently on 4th
    kid.

    There are two major considerations going on here for insurance. One is the
    age, sex, experience and accident history of the driver. The other is the
    claims experience the company has had with that particular year/model of
    car. It doesn't matter if its big or small, they are looking at claims
    frequency and money they have paid out on this particular model car.

    It is usually a good idea to get a quote from the insurance company for
    insurance on a particular car before buying.
     
    E. Meyer, Apr 13, 2004
    #35
  16. Wrong! Its usually cheaper to buy and old wreck and put the kid on it with
    NO! You're wrongo bozo!

    A 17 year old's liability coverage alone is thru the roof regardless of the
    car.

    A 17 year old will ALWAYS cost more to insure than a 35 year old!





    How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

    1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
    2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
    3. Hold button til light goes out
     
    He Hate Retards, Apr 13, 2004
    #36
  17. Don't get him a car and save lots of money. Buy him bus/train tickets for
    when he needs to come home. Or, have the many family members who want to
    help him out pick him up from school on a rotating basis. The 4 hours spent
    in the car together will help them bond.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Apr 13, 2004
    #37
  18. Oh - you want *the* Bohemian/artist look?


    http://www.volvoamazon.dk/
    Click on "Historie" - The wagon is THE ultimate Volvo for the
    college student who is looking to make connections.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6458&item=2472550176
    Sedan. Cute. :)

    http://www.grmotorsports.com/volvo122s.html
    The same thing in racing form :)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6458&item=2472238079
    I had one of these. Same color, same year. Twice as good condition,
    though. Excellent little car. Okay - it was a heavy gas-guzzling
    160HP beast. :) Fast, though, and everyone stopped me to ask what
    in the world it was.

    The 1975 164E was basically a 240 with 164 sheetmetal and the bigger
    inline 6 engine - the best of both worlds. They only made *two*
    wagons, though, as prototypes.

    And everyone's favorite:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6458&item=2471543864
    Volvo made nice cars back then.
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Apr 13, 2004
    #38
  19. me6

    E. Meyer Guest

    B.S. Like I've said - I'm on kid number 4. With two of them now, the
    insurance price to buy an old car and insure the kid on it was less than
    just the cost of adding the kid to my policy. Calling me names is not going
    to change the numbers on my insurance bills and checks.

    And a new Rolls is always going to cost more than a ten year old Impala.
    Your statement that its not the car is just plain wrong. Its both the car
    and the driver, not just one or the other, and the OP was commenting on why
    a Civic would cost more to insure. Where did this 35 year old come from?
    ???
     
    E. Meyer, Apr 13, 2004
    #39
  20. B.S. Like I've said - I'm on kid number 4. With two of them now, the
    I did a comparison at www.esurance.com and it was LOWER to add the 17 year old
    to an adult's policy! If you aren't such a thickheaded moron, I dare you to do
    the same.

    That wasn't my point, idioto. I'm saying no matter how responsible the 17 year
    old might be, he'll ALWAYS be a higher risk than an average adult.


    D - U - H !



    How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

    1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
    2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
    3. Hold button til light goes out
     
    He Hate Retards, Apr 14, 2004
    #40
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