HELP My Parked Car Was Hit - Insurance Not Making Sense - No Fault

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by InsuranceHelp2004, Apr 17, 2004.

  1. I don't think this update will be of any help to you. The previous
    posting from Larry says it all--since you did not have collision
    insurance, Geico(or any company you had) has no responsibility in your
    case. Now you know why people pay extra for collision insurance--your
    company will pay no matter whose fault it was--even your own. They then
    sue the other insurance company or companies to recover what they paid
    you--this is called subrogation. Your only recourse now if the other
    insurance companies won't accept liability is to sue them. This of
    course will cost you some money, but you may get them to settle with
    you. Sorry I don't have better news.
    Ken
     
    Kenneth J. Harris, Apr 18, 2004
    #41
  2. Are any of the people who have responded to this a GEICO employee or an
    employee of another insurance company?
    I'm neither, but have had my fair share of MVA's along with my wife and
    three teenagers.
    The only thing that I can agree with is that no collision coverage, you are
    SOL. If any of the other vehicles were insured by GEICO, they may waive a
    deductible. If you want to spend a lot of time calling and making contact
    with each of the other insurance companies, somebody might be willing to
    write you a check and get you off of the list of people to deal with.
    I personally think you need the services of an attorney and start filing
    small claims suits against everybody involved. As far as the police report
    is concerned, unless there is a major mistake, like the "North" arrow is
    point southbound on the diagram, he said, she said, will not get changed.
    Bottom line, write this off to an expensive lesson in life, change insurance
    companies, and take the loss off your 2004 taxes.
     
    James M. Kelly, Apr 18, 2004
    #42
  3. Are any of the people who have responded to this a GEICO employee or an
    employee of another insurance company?
    I'm neither, but have had my fair share of MVA's along with my wife and
    three teenagers.
    The only thing that I can agree with is that no collision coverage, you are
    SOL. If any of the other vehicles were insured by GEICO, they may waive a
    deductible. If you want to spend a lot of time calling and making contact
    with each of the other insurance companies, somebody might be willing to
    write you a check and get you off of the list of people to deal with.
    I personally think you need the services of an attorney and start filing
    small claims suits against everybody involved. As far as the police report
    is concerned, unless there is a major mistake, like the "North" arrow is
    point southbound on the diagram, he said, she said, will not get changed.
    Bottom line, write this off to an expensive lesson in life, change insurance
    companies, and take the loss off your 2004 taxes.
     
    James M. Kelly, Apr 18, 2004
    #43
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    E. Meyer Guest

    I don't know where you are, but it was explained to me once in Texas that
    the owner of the car is liable for damaged caused by it, whether he/she/it
    was driving or not. I think you should sue them all (car #1, Car #2, driver
    of #2).
     
    E. Meyer, Apr 19, 2004
    #44
  5. InsuranceHelp2004

    E. Meyer Guest

    I don't know where you are, but it was explained to me once in Texas that
    the owner of the car is liable for damaged caused by it, whether he/she/it
    was driving or not. I think you should sue them all (car #1, Car #2, driver
    of #2).
     
    E. Meyer, Apr 19, 2004
    #45
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    lcopps Guest

    Tell Geico you are going to file a complaint to your states insurance
    commissioner if they do not take care of this problem for you. You are
    paying them to do this.
     
    lcopps, Apr 19, 2004
    #46
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    lcopps Guest

    Tell Geico you are going to file a complaint to your states insurance
    commissioner if they do not take care of this problem for you. You are
    paying them to do this.
     
    lcopps, Apr 19, 2004
    #47
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    Larry Guest

    GEICO is not responsible for getting involved....they have no contractual
    responsibilty as no collision coverage was purchased. When an insurance
    company has a duty to respond and they don't, bad faith lawsuits are then
    brought against the carrier, which usually costs them millions of dollars
    due to punitive damage awards. This is clearly not the case. In the case of
    a permissive driver who may or may not have had culpability in this, almost
    all policies cover permissive use of the vehicle by someone who has no
    ownership of the car. The carrier involvement for the accident would not
    change, however, if I were filing a small claims action, I'd include the
    driver and owner in the suit to cover my bases.
     
    Larry, Apr 19, 2004
    #48
  9. InsuranceHelp2004

    Larry Guest

    GEICO is not responsible for getting involved....they have no contractual
    responsibilty as no collision coverage was purchased. When an insurance
    company has a duty to respond and they don't, bad faith lawsuits are then
    brought against the carrier, which usually costs them millions of dollars
    due to punitive damage awards. This is clearly not the case. In the case of
    a permissive driver who may or may not have had culpability in this, almost
    all policies cover permissive use of the vehicle by someone who has no
    ownership of the car. The carrier involvement for the accident would not
    change, however, if I were filing a small claims action, I'd include the
    driver and owner in the suit to cover my bases.
     
    Larry, Apr 19, 2004
    #49
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    JM Guest

    Not giving legal advice, but: I would check with Geico and your
    local state insurance department to see what the definition is between
    collision and comprehensive in your state if you need to. If Geico
    doesn't cover this, you could be in a very bad way financially.

    This case could easily take years to resolve, not months. You said
    Driver #2 was taken to the hospital. This indicates big stakes could
    now be involved. Now that both carriers are denying liability, this
    could mushroom into a full blown trial with expert witnesses as to
    whose fault it was. This type of thing can take many years,
    particularly if Driver 2's injuries were significant -- or they claim
    that they were.

    If you have no coverage, you may need to file suit against all the
    drivers and owners at a minimum. Your suit will get some attention
    but not likely too much immediately. The carriers certainly aren't
    going to feel much pressure to settle with you; you are small fry in
    the overall picture. Eventually your suit may be combined with the
    other suits that have or will be filed, so that a single court can
    sort it all out, particularly as to whose fault it was.

    This is complex litigation and you need an attorney. Let me repeat
    that, You Need An Attorney. Or maybe find a legal clinic run by a
    local law school or such if you can't work the finances. You need
    legal help. And probably a part-time job to get enough for another
    car.

    JM
     
    JM, Apr 19, 2004
    #50
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    JM Guest

    Not giving legal advice, but: I would check with Geico and your
    local state insurance department to see what the definition is between
    collision and comprehensive in your state if you need to. If Geico
    doesn't cover this, you could be in a very bad way financially.

    This case could easily take years to resolve, not months. You said
    Driver #2 was taken to the hospital. This indicates big stakes could
    now be involved. Now that both carriers are denying liability, this
    could mushroom into a full blown trial with expert witnesses as to
    whose fault it was. This type of thing can take many years,
    particularly if Driver 2's injuries were significant -- or they claim
    that they were.

    If you have no coverage, you may need to file suit against all the
    drivers and owners at a minimum. Your suit will get some attention
    but not likely too much immediately. The carriers certainly aren't
    going to feel much pressure to settle with you; you are small fry in
    the overall picture. Eventually your suit may be combined with the
    other suits that have or will be filed, so that a single court can
    sort it all out, particularly as to whose fault it was.

    This is complex litigation and you need an attorney. Let me repeat
    that, You Need An Attorney. Or maybe find a legal clinic run by a
    local law school or such if you can't work the finances. You need
    legal help. And probably a part-time job to get enough for another
    car.

    JM
     
    JM, Apr 19, 2004
    #51
  12. Unless you have collision insurance, they won't do squat for you. They
    only care when their money is involved.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Apr 19, 2004
    #52
  13. Unless you have collision insurance, they won't do squat for you. They
    only care when their money is involved.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Apr 19, 2004
    #53
  14. What you need to do is not worry about who is at fault in the accident,
    that is not your problem. If you know for sure which car hit your car,
    go after their insurance company. It is then up to that car owners insurance
    company to go after the one that is at fault. Make sure that you get
    retail value, plus any after market add ons, for your car. You may also
    want to consider renting a car in the mean time, and passing along the cost
    to the insurance company. It may get ugly and require you to get an attorney
    involved.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Apr 19, 2004
    #54
  15. What you need to do is not worry about who is at fault in the accident,
    that is not your problem. If you know for sure which car hit your car,
    go after their insurance company. It is then up to that car owners insurance
    company to go after the one that is at fault. Make sure that you get
    retail value, plus any after market add ons, for your car. You may also
    want to consider renting a car in the mean time, and passing along the cost
    to the insurance company. It may get ugly and require you to get an attorney
    involved.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Apr 19, 2004
    #55
  16. You make a good point. I wonder if this type of damage would fall under
    comprehensive or collision coverage.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Apr 19, 2004
    #56
  17. You make a good point. I wonder if this type of damage would fall under
    comprehensive or collision coverage.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Apr 19, 2004
    #57
  18. Shouldn't make a difference unless the owner of car #2 is going to say
    the car was stolen.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Apr 19, 2004
    #58
  19. Shouldn't make a difference unless the owner of car #2 is going to say
    the car was stolen.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Apr 19, 2004
    #59
  20. InsuranceHelp2004

    Larry Guest

    Its collision, since it is involvement with another motor vehicle. Its
    definitely not comprehensive!

     
    Larry, Apr 19, 2004
    #60
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