HID Bulbs

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by LAVALLE, Nov 10, 2003.

  1. LAVALLE

    LAVALLE Guest

    Hi,
    Can anyone recommence HID blue bulbs for an 04 accord ?
    What's the difference in super white bulbs/Xenon ?
    I just need blue bulbs ,any difference btw a PIAA or another brand ?
    Thanks
     
    LAVALLE, Nov 10, 2003
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  2. LAVALLE

    DrPimpDaddi Guest

    Sylvania Silverstar is the best. Only $40/pair.





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    DrPimpDaddi, Nov 10, 2003
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  3. LAVALLE

    Falco Guest

    I seriously doubt you would purchase HID bulbs for $40 pair
     
    Falco, Nov 10, 2003
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  4. LAVALLE

    LAVALLE Guest

    why not ?
     
    LAVALLE, Nov 10, 2003
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  5. LAVALLE

    DrPimpDaddi Guest

    I seriously doubt you would purchase HID bulbs for $40 pair
    Sure, go ahead and buy the $5 bulbs off ebay. You'll find out how foolish that
    was when they're not street legal nor warrantied, which would be useful when
    they blow up.




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    DrPimpDaddi, Nov 10, 2003
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  6. LAVALLE

    Randolph Guest

    Sylvania SilverStar are not HID bulbs. They are halogen bulbs with a
    slightly different gas mixture inside for slightly higher light output.
    The bulb has a blue tint, providing a whiter light than regular
    halogens.

    One of the gasses used in halogen bulbs is xenon, but they are still
    just halogen bulbs, not HID bulbs. To confuse matters, HID lights are
    sometimes called xenon lights.

    You can not get HID bulbs that will simply replace your old halogens.
    HID bulbs operate at much higher voltage and need a converter box
    (usually referred to a a ballast). Bulbs and ballast will run you
    several hundred dollars and when you are done, the light will not be
    street legal.

    There are DOT compliant HID options (e.g. Sylvania Xenarc 1010) but
    those are additional lights you mount to the car, not replacement bulbs.

    If all you want is to get a blue hue to your headlights go get a set of
    Sylvania Cool Blue halogens.
     
    Randolph, Nov 10, 2003
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  7. LAVALLE

    DrPimpDaddi Guest

    Sylvania SilverStar are not HID bulbs. They are halogen bulbs with a
    From Sylvania's own website:

    "SYLVANIA's SilverStar halogen headlights are the brightest, 100% street legal
    halogen on the road- burning cleaner and crisper, with a white-hot intensity
    that will set you and your machine apart. SilverStar headlights are the only
    halogens that capture the high performance look of HID, changing your view of
    the night.

    SilverStar halogen's color temperature is a white hot 4,000K, which is higher
    than other halogens on the road and comparable to High Intensity Discharge
    headlights.

    SilverStar headlights shine with greater luminance than other halogens."




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    DrPimpDaddi, Nov 10, 2003
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  8. LAVALLE

    Randolph Guest

    As I wrote, Sylvania SilverStar is NOT an HID bulb. It is a halogen
    bulb. It is perfectly legal. It might "capture the high performance look
    of HID" but it is not an HID bulb.
     
    Randolph, Nov 11, 2003
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  9. LAVALLE

    DrPimpDaddi Guest

    As I wrote, Sylvania SilverStar is NOT an HID bulb. It is a halogen
    There is not such thing as "HID bulb," it's just a slang for HID-like,
    Xenon-like replacement bulbs.

    I seriously doubt OP's talking about converting his lighting to real HID, which
    involves more than just bulbs and costs over $1000.





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    DrPimpDaddi, Nov 11, 2003
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  10. LAVALLE

    Randolph Guest

    There is not such thing as "HID bulb," it's just a slang for HID-like,
    There certainly is such a thing as an HID bulb. D1R, D1S, D2R and D2S
    are common types used in OEM HID headlights. Sylvania makes them as does
    Philips.

    You can also get HID bulbs that fit in headlights intended for 9003 / H4
    and other popular halogen bulbs. Used with the proper ballast these will
    allow you to upgrade to HID, but the result is not DOT compliant. Kits
    with bulbs and ballasts can be had for under $600
    Agreed. The original poster said "I just need blue bulbs"
     
    Randolph, Nov 11, 2003
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  11. LAVALLE

    Me Guest

    I hate that DOT compliant crap. Just because something is dealer or
    mfgr-installed usually makes it DOT compliant. Take a look at Lexus.
    They have the Altezza tail-lamps, yet Honda drivers get pulled over
    daily for having non-DOT or non-OEM taillights. I have friends who get
    pulled over for having blue bulbs in their lowered Civics, yet no-one
    does anything about the BMW X5's which shines their blue bulbs in the
    eyes of every compact car driver out there. Just what the hell is DOT
    compliant anyway, and just WHY exaclty do we trust the government to
    decide all this stuff for us anyway?

    Nate
     
    Me, Nov 14, 2003
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    Me Guest

    I have bought 3 different sets of those on Ebay, including the ones
    with "lifetime warrenty." That would be two sets for my Civic and one
    set for my wife's 99 Stratus. They burn out in 6 months, don't bother.

    Nate
     
    Me, Nov 14, 2003
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    Gus Guest

    Me wrote:

    (snip)
    Because things were so much better before federal safety standards,
    e.g., Car & Driver described the interior of the new Pantera as "Safety
    by Gillette" 1968ish.

    Are you old enough to remember when cars were not equipped with seat
    belts, collapsible steering columns, crush zones, etc.?
     
    Gus, Nov 16, 2003
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  14. LAVALLE

    Me Guest

    Yes, my dad had a 1973 Dodge Dart and a 1971 Plymouth Duster. He
    currently drives (3!) 1981 Suburu GL station wagons and a 1995 Ford
    Escort Wagon. I can say that I don't feel any safer in my 1994 Civic
    than I do in any those cars. I actualy think that I would prefer the
    Dart. I remember when my dad added a high mount brake light for
    something like $10 from JC Whitney instead of paying the Dodge dealer
    a ridiculous amount to put a factory one in. I wonder how much it
    added to the price of a newer Dart (assuming any had those brake
    lights)? Like the guy with the 67 and 68 Galaxies, I think that a lot
    of the collapsable stuff is just to compensate for the weight drops
    used to meet the mandatory EPA fuel standards. It reminds me a lot of
    the Canadian drug thing, where the judge here in Oklahoma shut down RX
    Depot, but the State Healthcare Authority is asking the state
    legislature to allow them to import prescriptions from Canada. The
    government's right hand never knows what the left is doing, and I'd
    rather they let me decide my own safety for myself.

    Nate
     
    Me, Nov 16, 2003
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    Gus Guest

    These are way too late for cars without seat belts & (IIRC) collapsible
    steering wheels. Don't know about crush zones.
    1. I paid $5 in 1962 to install seat belts in my car.

    2. so the dealer was killing you with installation charges - somethings
    never change. ;)

    Finally, would you really leave safety equipment up to the manufacturers?
     
    Gus, Nov 17, 2003
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  16. LAVALLE

    Me Guest

    Define "up to". We basically leave it up to them and the insurance
    companies now. The insurance companies test all the cars and if any
    test unsafe, the government fines them or the NHTSA forces a recall.
    If the government dropped ALL the safety regulations, do you think
    that anyone would buy cars that carry a zero-point-two star safety
    rating? I am saying that by mandating things like side airbags, etc,
    you're just making the cars more expensive, because then it gives the
    automakers an excuse to jack up the price. As an example, take a look
    at the price of automobiles. That is one of a handful of industries
    (healthcare [which is also overegulated] being a notable companion]
    that are exceeding the cost of inflation. Groceries, which have had
    regulations change very little, are not rising much at all. I don't
    feel like I'm going to be poisoned by an unscrupulous grocer just
    because the goverment hasn't added any additional laws, though.

    Nate
     
    Me, Nov 17, 2003
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  17. LAVALLE

    Gus Guest

    Do you assume people wouldn't? I find it amazing that Detroit has sold
    the SUVs so effectively when they look so much worse on paper.
    1. automakers don't need an excuse to jack up prices, they're delighted
    to do it on their own;
    2. the argument about cost is used for everything - I don't find it very
    compelling. If not forced otherwise, Detroit would be perfectly happy to
    continue making the carbureted V8's they sold by the millions in the
    60's (before any regs kicked in in 1968)
    Little need to worry about grocers, but I see *way* too many cases of E.
    coli breaking out around the us. E. coli is fecal contamination in case
    you don't know and it kills some people. Are you familiar with Upton
    Sinclair's "The Jungle"?
     
    Gus, Nov 17, 2003
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