"High mileage" motor oil

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Like I said, lead was blamed. Every engine, however, produces combustion
by-products and oil is not very selective at what it disperses.

Yeah I found that article too and I believe there are quite a few modern
aero engines which run quite happily on unleaded... even mogas.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

As a followup, I tried looking for the infamous Castrol NA Syntec
MSDS sheets. They have several, but they all seem to have the same
listings. The main ingredient is "synthetic hydrocarbons", but that
seems to run the gamut of different things listed as "may contain one
or more of the following". I looked up the CAS numbers to figure out
what they are (the Castrol NA MSDS sheet isn't specific):

<http://www.jeadauto.net/msds/castrol/syntec-0w30.pdf>

CAS 68037-01-4: 1-DECENE, TETRAMER, MIXED WITH 1-DECENE TRIMER,
HYDROGENATED (AKA POLYALPHAOLEFINS)
<http://www.epa.gov/chemrtk/1dectmix/c13433rs.pdf>

CAS 64742-54-7: DISTILLATES (PETROLEUM), HYDROTREATED (MILD) HEAVY
PARAFFINIC (9CI)
<http://www.epa.gov/enviro/html/emci/chemref/64742547.html>

CAS #68649-12-7: 1-DECENE, TETRAMER, MIXED WITH 1-DECENE TRIMER,
HYDROGENATED
<http://www.epa.gov/enviro/html/emci/chemref/68649127.html>

CAS 64741-88-4: DISTILLATES (PETROLEUM), SOLVENT-REFINED (MILD) HEAVY
PARAFFINIC (9CI)
<http://www.epa.gov/enviro/html/emci/chemref/64741884.html>

CAS # 92062-09-4: slack wax (petroleum), hydrotreated
<http://www.epa.gov/chemrtk/wxrelmat/c13902ct.htm>

** ** **

So - they seem to leave room for the possibility of using PAO as
one of their base oils. I've heard something to the effect that
some of the 0W-30 oil that Castrol NA sells is the real PAO/ester
oil that is made in Germany and approved for extended drain use
by Mercedes-Benz.

 

You've really been digging out a links on this - thanks for posting them.
The "solvent-refined heavy paraffinic" must be for mixing into a
semi-synthetic - no? That's just good ol' "dino-oil" and has no place in
anything which is touted as "synthetic". Note also that in their
"confession", http://www.castrolusa.com/syntecresponse.htmlCastrol, claims
that Mobil sells hydroisomerized basestocks as synthetic in Europe and
other markets.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

My guess? It sounds to me like they've written up a single universal
MSDS for all their Syntec oils. I do seem to recall that synthetic
motor oil makers have a bit of leeway in that additive packages may
come in a "carrier" composed of conventional oil. That being said,
I'd think that Mobil or some big company could use a synthetic oil
for that purpose.

BTW - I was also curious about Syntec Blend. Its list of oil
ingredients is much longer.

<http://www.jeadauto.net/msds/castrol/syntec-blend-5w30.pdf>

Here are the CAS#:
64741-88-4; 64742-54-7; 64742-65-0;
72623-84-8; 72623-87-1; 72623-86-0;
72623-83-7; 72623-85-9; 151006-60-9
151006-63-2

As for why I did all this - I was just bored, and thought I might be
able to lean something.

 

Sounds to me like you aren't enjoying your capitalism.

 

And just WTF are you to be commenting on my enjoyment of capitalism - some
anonymous fuckin' Usenet sniper? Rules *were* bent to accomodate the
petro-incest both in your 4th Reich... as well as here in the U.S. That's
on top of the bureaucraic meddlers who brought us the disaster known as
reformulated gasoline. No reflection on capitalism is warranted.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

its great, when you have a bunch of smaller companies getting together
to be able to compete better with the huge companies. that way, you have
economy of scale, and prices come down.

but what we have HERE is huge companies combining, and becoming huger.
thats not good. and neither party seems to care.

 

George Macdonald wrote:

I thought the 4th Reich *was* the US???

 

Oh Christ - another fearless, anonymous Net-sniper.

Well no, our "leaders" are still elected. Though the results and process
have become degraded over the years, there is a guaranteed mechanism to fix
current flaws.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

S'what happens when you put the most reviled, least productive sector of
society in charge.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Take a pill & relax, George. Did you consider the post I replied to (or
did you think it was well stated and to the point)?

 

Yup, that's true. Take any dozen people each with 200 million to spend and
one of them will get elected.

Anonymous I may be but I'm careful not to insult people from cover. Your
"sniper" comment was inaccurate, as was your description of Canada as
"Canuckistan" and (I take it) Germany as "The 4th Reich". I'm not German nor
am I in Germany but let me tell you that both Canada and Germany are damn
fine nations and their leaders are a lot better respected than are the
leaders you are presently following. As the USA we all loved turns slowly
into a war-fighting banana republic your people struggle under tremendous
tax burdens while huge entities like Enron rob you of your futures and
housewives duped by Martha Stuart watch her go to jail. How many times must
the edge of the veil be lifted before you actually notice that every time it
is lifted a horriffic scene of corruption and true treason is revealed?
You've allowed your manufacturing base to be exported, much of it to China
(save for weapons, of course) and yet can never imagine a rupture in the
world's financial infrastructure which will prevent you from repatriating
the profits from your investments. Your NYSE has climbed 46% in a year, and
that's far too much good news. A crash is a certainty. Pretty soon you'll
get your next lesson on how much better you are than your neighbours.
You'll end up _dreaming_ of working in "Canuckistan" or any other of those
nations you've invented filthy names for.
They'll be pleased to meet people from a superior race.

 

Hey your'e the one who was unrelaxed enough to butt in and let off another
anonymous brain-fart. If you can't put a name to your challenges they're
empty - no credentials.... yer shootin' blanks uhh, Sparky????

Mine?... of course!!

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Ah so it was a previous post which got up your nose - you should have
challenged then... it was just banter son... and you "take it" wrong: the
4th Reich I'm referring to is the Europe ruled by the EC (European
Commission in case you are unaware). Maybe you enjoy being ruled by a
bunch of pompous, self-regarding, corrupt, *unelected* "high officials".
If it ain't fascism by committee, it's a pretty damned good
imitation.<shrug>

Both small potatoes in the light of the $1billion hole of unaccounted for
"expense" in the Euro-bureacracy last year. Isn't it considered normal to
expect a *higher* standard of fiscal behavior from govt. errr, "officials"?
Profit is not supposed to be a motive for participation... I thought
anyway.;-) Lift your own veil!

You really should have calmed down before writing wishful twaddle. Get
around and read a bit - get yourself informed instead of falling over for
the Dan Blathers of the media. They're only selling "seats".

As for certainty of an impending crash, I've been hearing that one for most
of my life - maybe one of those days it'll be right... but then again, any
new challengers to the established economic system seem to have such an
aptitude for buggering things up themselves.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Yes, Americans do fear the EU don't they?!
It's so good to see that!

 

A billion dollar hole? Bush's "budget" digs one of those every 19
hours.

Of course that doesn't begin to measure the true cost. For example;
All of the billions spent on Iraq do not include the costs borne by
the families when their sons, daughters, wives and husbands are killed
or maimed or simply out of the country for a year at a time. I think
it was on NPR where I heard of the family who were financially,
emotionally and retirementally ruined when their 19yo son came
permanently attached to a respirator. That is what is known as
externalizing your costs.

My question is this. If you have to have a budget and appropriation
for dollars to be spent on military adventurism, why don't you need
same for the number of soldiers you are going to leave crippled and
killed. If W thinks that the current carnal (as opposed to fiscal)
expenditure is justified, let him get it through the (Republican
controlled) legislature.

 

Jesus, George, how can you post this with a straight face after what the
Bush administration has done the past 4 years??!! "Higher standard" - LOL!

 

You're not that dense.

It really torques you off (on topic, heh) when anyone disagrees with
your standard rightwingnut boilerplate (which is why I dropped out of
this NG for a while).

 

The Bushies don't answer the phone anymore for only a $billion. They've
elevated cronyism & corruption to levels Boss Tweed & co. couldn't even
dream of. Harding's "Teapot Dome" scandal would be a tempest in a teapot
these days, probably not even make the front page.

Also the families of guys in their 50's who are being killed in Iraq.
One guy had to finagle his doc & insurance co. to get 18 months worth of
his cholesterol & blood pressure medicine before he deployed -
absolutely heartbreaking (and criminal that this administration is
sending guys who require cholesterol & blood pressure medicines into
combat).

At the rate the Bushies are cutting veterans' benefits, they see the
cost as zero.

Reminds me of a question I've been asking since the fall of 2002 - how
many names if the Boy King prepared to accept on the Iraq veterans
memorial? Looks as though it's in excess of 1,000.