Highest MPG for Non-Hybrids?

"Environmental costs" are invented and quantified by the capricious whim of
activists and politicians. They are not true costs.

Now if you want to remove the SUBSIDIES from petroleum so the TRUE costs
are reflected in the pump price, I would wholeheartedly agree with that.

 

Name 10.

OK, I'll make it easy: name 5.

Now name 5 that people want as their sole car, to do everything from
grocery runs to driving over the mountains and through the snow to see
their parents/children, or to take their children to see grandma.

 

You need to google on this. Chevron, Exxon and the like pay a lot of
money in several ways to cover environmental costs.

 

Why isn't one enough? Make sense or be ignored.

 

Thank You for an ounce of sanity here.

"The sky is falling" zealots have move far beyond environmentalism on to
promoting the same as a religion.

Just to balance things out, I think I'll go for a forty mile drive in my
'55 President sedan that only gets about 25mpg...

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JT

 

I think that is what he's saying... The associated "environmental"
costs are unneeded add ons encouraged by government etc.

JT

 

Jim, what's your problem?

 

Really? Now you use one gallon for every mile you drive.
If you move out of the city and start living in the mountains
you will not use any oil, so it will reduce oil use

 

Follow the money....always follow the money.

Sure, there are plenty of kookbiscuits to beat the shrubs, but the guy
handing out the bats has a financial interest and nothing BUT a
financial interest.

 

If it's an "EASY matter" then there must be choice involved.

If there's no choice involved--that is, if there's only one--then it's
not easy. It's like Russia during the cold war. You want something?
We have one--whether you like it or not.

Now YOU make sense or be ignored. Name 5 coupes/sedans that get 35mpg
or more. We'll start with the easy part.

Then we'll move on to "name 5 that people want as their sole car".
Because as you know, it doesn't make sense to have more than one car.
You buy the one that makes the most sense overall for your situation,
and which minimizes to the greatest degree your need for renting or
borrowing something different to do a specialized task.

Now, make sense or be ignored. (My guess is you're already being
ignored plenty.)

 

This is not what I am saying. Oil spills and damage done by drilling
are very expensive. U.S. companies pay a lot by way of better
equipment and better planning to minimize both. Reason: Paying up
front is less than what it would cost otherwise.

 

So one is enough.

 

What's currently accepted as "environmentalism" IS a religion. Like any
other religion, it's based on emotion and fear, and not much else.

Spew some blue smoke for me, huh?

 

Sure. And every penny of those costs is passed down to the consumer.
With markup. Oil companies do not provide charity.

 

most of that is political fiction. they get massive development and
resource depreciation write-offs that completely out-weigh any weeny
gesture to environmental impact.

 

As long as you don't mind your own grandchildren spitting on your
grave...

 

Five years ago it was "global arming is a hoax." Now it's
"environmentalism is a religion." I'm not exactly young, but at least
I'm not perpetually bringing up the rear, and looking backwards to boot...

 

Nope.

Make sense or be ignored.

You still haven't come up with EVEN ONE, let alone 5, let alone 5 that
people would actually buy.

 

Leftie a écrit:

the lower with an european toyota corolla diesel (1l4 engine 1NDTV)
was 65mpg on a hot day, a 80km trip maximum speed 90km/h on high way.

the usual is 55mpg

 

wow, that's pretty sippy.