Honda Accord 2004 lights dimming

Discussion in 'Accord' started by fireball661957, Jan 27, 2005.

  1. I have a honda accord 2004 and when the air conditioner is on the lights
    dim for a brief sec.about every 12 to 15 sec.when the fan starts up it
    even does this when the motor is cold . I have taken this to the dealer
    and they say it is a normal thing for this car. Does anyone else have this
    problem?
     
    fireball661957, Jan 27, 2005
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  2. fireball661957

    Custers Guest

    I just noticed this last night as well. I have never experienced this
    before, and I have done a good bit of night driving. I even turn off the
    system and it still does it. It's not a regular occurrence either. Do you
    have foglights on yours?

    Must be a voodoo thing going on....
     
    Custers, Jan 27, 2005
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  3. You aren't alone. I've experienced this with my 2004 Accord as well. The
    dealer told me the same story, that is was normal, but didn't say why it
    was. I haven't noticed this in a while but then again I don't do as much
    night driving as I did a couple months ago. I can't remember if the a/c had
    to be on or if it did it regardless. Oh, and no, I do not have fog lights.

    Richard
     
    Richard Forester, Jan 27, 2005
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  4. fireball661957

    Abeness Guest

    This would be consistent with an extra electrical drain on the system,
    much like when you turn on a room A/C, lights on the same circuit dim.
    With a car, there is the added factor of the extra mechanical drain
    caused by the A/C compressor kicking in that slows the engine slightly,
    thereby reducing output from the alternator. If you listen to the engine
    carefully, you can actually hear it.

    Electric motors have a very heavy initial drain when they first start
    up, which is why circuits with large motors on them require delay fuses
    to prevent them from blowing prematurely.
     
    Abeness, Jan 27, 2005
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  5. Yes i do have the fog lights on my accord too but it even does it when they
    are off
     
    fireball661957, Jan 28, 2005
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  6. fireball661957

    halo2 guy Guest

    sounds normal.
     
    halo2 guy, Jan 28, 2005
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  7. My '03 Accord does the same thing; I got the same line as you from my
    dealer.

    It's highly annoying. Maybe I'll look into adding some of those 1 Farad
    capacitors normally used for car amplifiers to the headlights...


    --Gene
     
    Gene S. Berkowitz, Jan 29, 2005
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  8. fireball661957

    TomP Guest

    Here's the answer from Honda, not sure why the dealer won't provide this to
    you...

    Headlights & Dash Lights Dim With Electrical Load
    NOTE: This article applies to all Honda models
    except Passport.
    Soon after the change from daylight savings time to
    standard time (the last Sunday in October), Tech Line
    gets numerous calls about flickering or dimming
    headlights and/or dash lights when the brakes or turn
    signals are used.
    This flickering or dimming happens when the battery
    is supplying most of the current for the electrical load
    instead of the alternator (something a customer is
    more likely to notice when their headlights are turned
    on).
    Since the early ’90s, Honda vehicles have come with
    an electrical load detector (ELD) unit in the
    under-hood fuse/relay box. This unit allows the
    ECM/PCM to regulate the alternator (switch it
    between high output and low output) to provide the
    best combination of fuel economy and electrical
    system operation. The ELD sends a signal to the
    ECM/PCM that’s proportional to the electrical
    demand. The ECM/PCM switches the alternator
    between high output and low output depending on
    several factors, which include electrical demand,
    battery charge level, and the driving cycle. When the
    alternator is in low output, the engine load is reduced
    and fuel economy improves.
    If your customer complains about this flickering or
    dimming, tell them about the ELD unit and how it
    works. Unless the engine won’t crank, or the vehicle
    has other symptoms of a weak battery, chances are the
    flickering or dimming isn’t an electrical problem.
    --
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    TomP, Jan 30, 2005
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  9. fireball661957

    classicred Guest

    I get the same problem in my 02 SE, 03 mazda tribute, and 03 miata. Just
    electrical load on the system. Normal. I got it in my other fords and
    mercuries before also.
     
    classicred, Feb 26, 2005
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