Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start

Discussion in 'Civic' started by murrayw, Nov 18, 2003.

  1. murrayw

    murrayw Guest

    For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
    It won't start.

    Here are the signs:

    1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
    conditioning, etc...)
    2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
    3) It won't take a jump.
    4) It will not crank.
    5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.

    I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
    because everything comes on.

    Any idea? What could be the problem?

    Thanks, well in advance...


    Warren L
     
    murrayw, Nov 18, 2003
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  2. murrayw

    SFarris Guest

    Timing belt...
     
    SFarris, Nov 18, 2003
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  3. murrayw

    SFarris Guest

    Never know..how many miles? 8 years, that is about due for a timing
    belt. But usually the motor will at least crank even it you have a
    broken timing belt.... Do you have a factory alarm or aftermarket
    alarm with starter kill?
     
    SFarris, Nov 18, 2003
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  4. murrayw

    murrayw Guest

    Say it isn't so... that is the last thing I would think of.

    Really? Thanks!!!
     
    murrayw, Nov 18, 2003
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  5. murrayw

    SFarris Guest

    If you are not hearing clicking when you are turning the key, the it
    sounds like possibly a starter kill. Because even when a battery is
    all the way dead you will hear clicking. With a starter kill you turn
    the key and eveything "pauses"... Let me know what you find.

    Email me at
     
    SFarris, Nov 18, 2003
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  6. murrayw

    murrayw Guest

    180k... timing belt was change about 90k ago. I do have a kill switch,
    but I didn't check that and can't check for another 7 hours, I'm at
    work.

    what else could it be?

    Thanks!!!
     
    murrayw, Nov 18, 2003
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  7. murrayw

    murrayw Guest

    i'll check... thanks!!!
     
    murrayw, Nov 18, 2003
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  8. Murrayw,

    Your ignition switch may have fallen apart inside. A blown timing belt
    won't blow by itself while the care is not running. Timing belt also
    won't prevent engine from turning over, nor will it stop your MAIN RELAY
    from clicking in and running the fuel pump for two or three seconds when
    you turn the key ON.

    The fact that boosting didn't make the engine turn over indicates that
    your battery connections are likely OK, but your GROUND connection could
    be bad...

    Don't be too quick to get your timing belt replaced (at least not
    without good advice)

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Nov 18, 2003
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  9. murrayw

    Me Guest

    My 1994 Civic DX did exactly what you're saying, and it was the
    battery. I drove it home just fine, and 3 hours later, it wouldn't
    start. Radio worked, lights worked (dimly), but the fuel pump didn't
    cycle and the car wouldn't even click. Autozone's tester tested the
    battery bad in about 20 seconds (even though the guy in front of me
    took 20 minutes for it to say charge and try again). Replaced the
    battery, all has been fine for a year.

    Nate
     
    Me, Nov 18, 2003
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  10. murrayw

    SFarris Guest

    How would an ignition switch just fall apart with the car just sitting
    there... going with your theory???
     
    SFarris, Nov 18, 2003
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  11. Here's what I would check, in order:

    1. Check the voltage of the battery WHILE you attempt to start it. If it
    drops down well below 10 volts,with still no click from the starter, replace
    the battery. Not likely this, seeing as it won't take a jump.

    2. Check the ground from the battery to the car.

    3. Check the voltage at the solenoid while you attempt to start it. If there
    is a good 12 volts there, but no click, pull the starter.

    4. If there is no power at the solenoid, start checking fuses/fusible links.

    5. If the fuses/fusible links check OK, check the ignition switch.
     
    Scott MacLean, Nov 18, 2003
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  12. My first guess was a bad battery. However, from the other posts--it could
    be several other things. I advise you to install a new battery. The
    present battery is now about 8 years old and even if it is not the
    cause--it will need to be replaced very soon. If the new battery does not
    solve the problem, I advise you to have it towed to the nearest mechanic
    that you trust or the nearest Honda dealership and have it checked. The
    mechanic will be able to figure out what is wrong with it. It would be
    expensive for you to start replacing items that may not even fix the
    problem--a mechanic would not replace any items that did not need to be
    replaced. You might say the battery falls into this category but I
    disagree since the average life span of a battery is about 5 to 8 years.
     
    Bill B. Johnson, Nov 18, 2003
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  13. My first guess was a bad battery. However, from the other posts--it could
    Well, some mechanics won't. There are, unfortunately, quite a few out there
    that just start replacing things in hopes it will fix a problem they don't
    take the time to figure out. And worse, there are some out there that
    replace things they know damn well don't need to be replaced.
     
    Scott MacLean, Nov 18, 2003
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  14. murrayw

    SFarris Guest

    The thing is, even with a loose batt wire or ground, you would still
    possibly have intermitten turns of the motor as well as dimming or
    flickering of the interior lights and dash. If the battery had a dead
    cell, it would draw off of itself and go dead in less than a day.


    p.s. I wish I could get 5-8 year on a batt. Texas heat KILLS batteries
    here! Almost every 1.5 - 2 year you need a battery!
     
    SFarris, Nov 18, 2003
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  15. Timing Belt last changed 90K ago? My mechanic told me the average lifespan
    on a '95 Civic timing belt is 75K miles. So it's quite likely it is the
    timing belt causing the problem. Hope your valves weren't open when it
    went - very expensive to rebuild an engine.


    Karen Mercedes
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    Karen Mercedes, Nov 18, 2003
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  16. murrayw

    Randolph Guest

    If the car won't even crank, it certainly is not the timing belt. If you
    put in your own kill switch, check the wiring carefully. If it is a
    stick shift, check the switch on the clutch pedal. Automatics have a
    gear position switch instead that will not allow you to start the car in
    gear. Check this switch if your car in an automatic.
     
    Randolph, Nov 18, 2003
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  17. murrayw

    SFarris Guest

    90% on a straight motor like a 4 cylinder or a straight 6 like some
    chyrslers it WILL bend the valves. It did it on my 87 civic and my 94
    civic.
     
    SFarris, Nov 18, 2003
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  18. murrayw

    SFarris Guest

    I agree, that I what I have been leaning toward...
     
    SFarris, Nov 18, 2003
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  19. murrayw

    Jim Yanik Guest

    I had a timing belt break on my 73 Civic CVCC,no damage at all;cranking
    went really fast after the belt broke.

    It all depends on a particular engine design.
     
    Jim Yanik, Nov 19, 2003
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