Honda Civic 97 model hardstart when cold

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Jeffrey D., May 1, 2007.

  1. Jeffrey D.

    Jeffrey D. Guest

    Hi Guys,

    I hope somebody can help me figure out this terrible problem I have
    with my Honda Civic.

    Every morning for the past few weeks (3 weeks), the machine have
    difficulty starting up. I hear the starter motor operating normally
    but the engine just won't start-up today. The battery is good, i see
    the lights when I open it and I remove the possibility of having the
    battery as the problem. I always went to the basics of starting the
    car through its manual. And when I encounter a hardstart the past few
    days, I would press the gas pedal to eliminate flooding (if that would
    have been the problem). It will start but i hear the engine start
    terribly. Then it would run normally after a few seconds. But when its
    up, the engine would just run fine especially when it's already hot. I
    have not encountered hardstart when the engine is still hot only when
    left overnight cold. Like when the car starts in the morning and I
    start it again at noon, the engine would just start fine. Only when it
    left overnight or when not used in around more than ten hours, or when
    its cold already.
    This morning was 'special'! Even if I press the gas pedal to the
    floor, i just hear the starter motor but not the engine running. I
    missed the office today so I am here online...

    This also happened before, about 3 weeks ago, but the engine started
    when repeatitively starting the car and pressing the gas pedal to the
    floor. I consulted the mechanic and he had clean the fuel filter
    believing that may have been the problem. He has also check the fuel
    lines and pump and confirmed they are all okay. He also tightened the
    valves to some degree as he heard it noisy and the clearance is
    already large. In short, he already done the tune-up. Except that my
    four starters are three months old already, around 7000kms used. But
    the mechanic also check the starters and mentioned they're all still
    ok. The engine oil has been changed last month and so far the oil
    mileage is 2000kms only. I have my car changed oil every 5000kms as
    the maintenance requires it. So doing the things described above by
    the mechanic, the problem still persists.

    I do not want to spend more for now when the problem will not just be
    solved, only if a clear diagnosis has been done.

    I have elaborated what have been done so far so I hope this gives you
    a clear idea how my car is faring. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank
    you.

    regards,
    Jeff Dellosa

    Philippines
     
    Jeffrey D., May 1, 2007
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  2. Jeffrey D.

    jim beam Guest

    run some injector cleaner through it - sounds like they're leaking and
    flooding the engine. hondas need this every few months for best operation.
     
    jim beam, May 1, 2007
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  3. Jeffrey D.

    Jeffrey D. Guest

    Jim, Thanks for the reply. Will check on the injector but how? i am a
    'rookie' on engines...
    Thanks.
     
    Jeffrey D., May 1, 2007
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  4. Jeffrey D.

    jim beam Guest

    just put a bottle of injector cleaner into the gas tank and let the
    solvents do their job. available any any motor parts store and many
    supermarkets. you may need to do this for two tankfuls. if this
    doesn't work, then look into other remedies, but it's the first thing to
    check based on the symptoms you describe. do /not/ get talked into
    injector replacement - it's /highly/ unlikely there's any permanent
    injector problem - honda injectors last almost forever.
     
    jim beam, May 1, 2007
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  5. Jeffrey D.

    motsco_ Guest

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    Your injector is sticking open and dribbling (pressurized) gas into the
    engine overnight. Put injector cleaner into tank (3x per year) and just
    drive it normally. As it uses the gas the injectors will clean
    themselves. My '95 Odyssey did this to me and it was a great mystery. It
    took me forever to read the manual and figure it out.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, May 1, 2007
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  6. Jeffrey D.

    Jeffrey D. Guest

    Hi Guys,

    Thanks to you all. The car started yesterday already with your help.
    Just want to make an update or share information on this if in case
    another civic owner encounters the same problem.
    What i did was clean the spark plugs first. I smell gas on the sparks
    when i remove them from the engine so it made me think it is true that
    the injectors are sticking open and leaving gas more than enough the
    engine needed.
    Holla, just after turning the keys to start, the Engine STARTED
    nicely.

    Then I added the injector cleaner as Jim and Curly mentioned here, and
    the following morning - the engine started smoothly. Thanks to you
    all.

    regards,
    Jeffrey
     
    Jeffrey D., May 3, 2007
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