Honda Civic question

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Subhabrata Bhattacharyya, Mar 4, 2005.

  1. Hi,
    I recently got a Honda Civic 2000, Value package with 58000 miles on it. I
    paid $8000 for it. The car is made in Canada. Clean history.
    Did I pay too much?

    Also, I had a 1991 Toyota Camry, V6. Obviously, I am feeling the lack of
    power. Anything can be done to increase the power especially the low end
    torque? I find the engine whirrs a lot compared to my older car while
    starting. But, my gas mileage has increased two folds!
    Thanks
    SB
     
    Subhabrata Bhattacharyya, Mar 4, 2005
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  2. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    disallow Guest

    If your engine is hard to start, it may be because
    you need a new fuel filter. Also, on my civic,
    it takes a few extra cranks if my gas tank is
    less than half full. This is due to the time
    it takes for the fuel pump to prime the fuel line.
    When the tank is less full, I guess it takes longer
    to prime the fuel line.

    Only thing I could think of to legitimately
    increase horsepower would be a supercharger,
    fairly involved and expensive. And would wear
    out your engine faster.

    Your just gonna have to get used to paying less
    for fuel... :)

    t
     
    disallow, Mar 4, 2005
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  3. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    jim beam Guest

    in my experience, most drivers that are used to v6's & v8's are scared
    to death of high revs & won't take the honda 4-banger up to high enough
    revs for it to start to be useful. hondas red line at 6.5k rpm for the
    basics & 7k, 7.5k, 8k etc depending on the model of sportier engine.
    you got to be within roughly 2000 rpm or less of the red to see the
    action on these things. to the o.p., be confident that these engines
    can take higher revs reliably & for many, many miles - get used to using
    them if you need more power. you can't over-rev it because the engine
    computer won't let you.
     
    jim beam, Mar 5, 2005
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  4. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    Pars Guest

    That's about the going rate.
    If it's a standard tranny, lighter rims with a smaller radius 195/50/15
    tires would help.

    Instead of focusing on the car's weakness, you could focus on it's strength,
    which is it's handling prowess. Better tires, springs and shocks would
    return drastic improvements.(I'm running on Pro-Kit and Tokico)

    The automatic tranny has shorter gearing and initial take-off is more then
    adequate for a 1.6L engine. The stock exhaust system does a great job at
    preserving initial power. You'd be hard pressed to find another 1.6L that
    has as much initial take-off power (that's not using forced induction).
    When equipped with an automatic tranny, the newer 2005 Civic would return
    better mileage then the older 2000 model.

    Pars
    98 Civic Hatch & 2000 Civic EX
     
    Pars, Mar 5, 2005
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  5. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    motsco_ _ Guest

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    Before starting, wait until the LAMP CHECK is finished before starting
    (see manual) this gives the fuel pump a couple seconds to build pressure
    first. Plugged fuel filter only manifests under engine load (read:
    climbing hills / strong headwind on highway)

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Mar 5, 2005
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  6. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    disallow Guest

    Hey curly,

    Not that I am questioning your expertise, but
    isn't this a symptom of the same problem? IE If
    the fuel pump can't keep up because the fuel
    filter is restricting flow, wouldn't it be
    apparent under 'high flow' as well as at startup?

    Just wondering.

    t
     
    disallow, Mar 5, 2005
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  7. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    mmdir2002 Guest


    you have a right clue why my car does not start on first
    crack. I have had to crack at second or third crack to
    start the car if the car has been parked for while. But always
    the car start on first crack if I car is parked for a short
    time.

    Is fuel filter change a hard work? There is a pressurizing
    work for replacing fuel filter right?
     
    mmdir2002, Mar 6, 2005
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  8. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    TE Cheah Guest

    | Anything can be done to increase the power
    Honda fits only short branch ( 4 into 1 pipe ), cheap & heavy cast iron
    * for its engines <2.2 litre, even a F22A's *'s twin pipes are short.
    Result is lower though adequate torque @ low rpm ( as during buyers'
    test drives ), but very low ( <½ as much ) torque & mpg @ high ( >
    3000 ) rpm, this differece rises with rpm.
    http://circletrack.com/techarticles/73598
    My local-made 4-2-1 * uses aluminised mild steel [ii] 13 kg < my
    F20A's original * [iii] has longer twin pipes than a F22A's * [iv] twin
    pipes's interior have 60% more cross section area than original *'s
    single pipe's.
    In 6-02 I saw a new Civic vtec 1.6 litre engine with very short * : a
    waste of vtec ( no way is torque / mpg esp @ high rpm maximised ).
    Many car makers ( incl Nissan in Sunny 130Y, Hyundai in Sonata 2.4,
    Proton in Waja 1.8 ) save on *, because 99.9% buyers don't test drive
    on highways, or know / experienced a difference between short & long
    branch *.

    | especially the low end torque?
    If windows' motors have a relay, see my post on 6-2-05.
     
    TE Cheah, Mar 6, 2005
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  9. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    motsco_ _ Guest


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    Good question. I think it's worth asking. Looking at his mileage and
    age, and the fact that he's not saying anything about high-speed or
    hesitation problems, I'd guess that the fuel filter would be ruled out,
    and, since the injectors can only fire once per cylinder / compression
    stroke, his Civic uses just the tiniest bit of fuel to start it.

    Fuel filter shows it's bad when you can't pass anything, and can't climb
    your own driveway.:-(

    Seeing his last post clarifies a bit too, since he says it's OK if it
    sits a short while, but gives more trouble after a long sit. He might
    have a sticking / dribbling injector thats flooding the engine as it
    bleeds his fuel rail pressure. It might also be some goofy flaw with the
    EGR or something that one of our _real_ experts knows something about.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Mar 7, 2005
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    vtecracing Guest

    That is a fair price.

    http://www.trackspeedracing.com
    Honda and Acura Drag Racing Parts Specialist
     
    vtecracing, Mar 17, 2005
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  11. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    TE Cheah Guest

    | http://www.trackspeedracing.com
    | Honda and Acura Drag Racing Parts Specialist

    This site's vocabulary stinks : an engine is a "motor" [ii] a cam shaft
    is "hot" [iii] igition timing is BTDC or ATDC is unclear, even the unit °
    can be left out !
    A short 4-1 turbo exhaust manifold is priced @US$418.95 ! I paid
    just M$250 ( incl fitting ) = US$65 for my 4-2-1 manifold ( branded,
    factory bar-coded ) in 4-03.
     
    TE Cheah, Mar 19, 2005
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  12. Subhabrata Bhattacharyya

    motsco_ _ Guest



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    This is possibly the best form of advertising I've seen lately. The
    cryptic post forced me to go follow the attached link and read thru the
    whole web site so I could understand what the heck the post meant.

    BTW, :) I already found out the cam shaft was HOT when I grabbed it :)

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Mar 19, 2005
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