Honda Dealer Oil Changes

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by John Smith, Sep 6, 2003.

  1. John Smith

    John Smith Guest

    Just had my 7500 mile service and oil change in my 2003 Accord LX V6. They
    put Mobil 1 oil in as well as the wynn's supreme plus oil additive. All
    this cost $119.00. Pretty darn expensive. I think I will skip the wynn's
    additive in the future and save $30.00. My understanding is that Mobil 1 is
    synthetic oil. This is no doubt more expensive than conventional oil. Is
    synthetic really any better or should I just go to a jiffy lube and get
    whatever oil they happen to use and only pay $30.00 or less?
     
    John Smith, Sep 6, 2003
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  2. you got screwed
     
    Dave Thompson, Sep 6, 2003
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  3. John Smith

    Daniel Guest

    MOst dealers have this package deal inspection : first time around is 119.00
    they (claim) they check a whole list of items, plus they throw in the oil
    and filter change. For 119.00 this is a ripoff. I stay away from the
    dealer`s scheduled maintenance offer, and strictly do the owner`s manual
    maintenance schedule. A corner garage mech can do the basic check under your
    car while the oil is dripping in the pan , for as few as 25$
     
    Daniel, Sep 6, 2003
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  4. You paid $120 for an oil change? Yowsers. My Honda dealer (suburban
    Minneapolis) charges $23 for an oil change -- and they give me a
    discount on top of that because I'm their favorite customer. Please
    tell me yours did something besides the typical LOF. Holy crow!
     
    Melba's Jammin', Sep 6, 2003
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  5. 1) The Wynn's additive is just dealer garbage add-on; their cost is $2.
    Plus, READ YOUR OWNER'S MANUAL. Carefully. It says "Your Honda does
    not require any oil additives. Additives may adversely affect your
    engine's or transmission's performance and durability". Take that back
    to the dealer and ask him why he's going against Honda advice, and
    politely but firmly request that he refund your $30. Tell him that you
    trust him to perform service to factory specs. You might also ask for
    an appointment with the dealer's zone rep; that would GUARANTEE your $30
    back, plus guarantee that they'll ignore your request at first.

    2) Does your owner's manual--you know, that thing they gave you when you
    forked over $26,000--say specifically to use synthetic oil? Synthetic
    oil is (a) more expensive, and (b) riper for mark-up by the dealer. My
    manual says this: "You may use a synthetic motor oil is it meets the
    same requirements given for a conventional motor oil; it displays the
    API Certification Seal, and it is the proper weight as shown on the
    char.t When using synthetic oil, you must follow the oil and filter
    change intervals given in the maintenance schedule."

    So. You may use synthetic oil, but Honda doesn't specify it. Also,
    Honda says that the use of synthetic oil does not change Honda's
    recommendations for oil change intervals.

    Your dealer shoved synthetic oil down your throat for no reason other
    than HE MAKES MORE MONEY FROM IT.

    Now, the kicker: my dealership, which kicks butt and has done a damn
    fine job for 20 years now, charges (drum roll, please) $25.99 for an oil
    change.

    And you got hosed for $120.

    You should go back there and ask to see the service manager. Ask to
    schedule a meeting with him and the zone rep within the next week to
    discuss this, and to discuss the possible damage that the dealership has
    caused your car by using oil additives specifically disallowed by Honda.

    No, no, better yet: put your request in writing, and send it certified
    mail with return receipt requested. Mention the possible damage to your
    engine, enclose a copy of your owner's manual, ask for the meeting, and
    ask for your money back. Follow up in person with the service manager
    or general manager, whomever you addressed the letter to.

    Watch your bill go away, you'll get an apology, and you'll never go back
    to that scum sucker again.

    Some dealerships are good. Others are horrible. Yours is horrible, and
    is looking for every angle to reclaim money lost over the years as cars
    got better, maintenance items got fewer, and maintenance intervals for
    the remaining items got longer.

    READ YOUR OWNER'S MANUAL. Jesus, what makes people spend that kind of
    money and then never open the manual?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Sep 6, 2003
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  6. John Smith

    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    My last oil change and filter cost eight dollars. (U.S) I did it
    myself. bob

    :
    Lots of really good advice.
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, Sep 6, 2003
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  7. John Smith

    Steve Lee Guest

    You shouldn't be using Mobil1 until at least your third oil change
    anyway. Also, don't use any oil additives, especially when you're
    using Mobil 1's stuff.

    I would never go back to that dealer again. They sound like they'll
    get you to do anything so long as they can make a few quick bucks off
    of you.

    Find a dealer who'll let you bring your own oil and filter and will
    perform the oil change for you. I bring my own Mobil 1 oil from
    Walmart and K&N Gold oil filter and the dealer charges me 10 bucks for
    the oil change. If the oil change is part of a scheduled service,
    then the fees are adjusted accordingly. Your dealer is a joke.
     
    Steve Lee, Sep 6, 2003
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  8. John Smith

    Eric Guest

    Oils are already blended with additives. Adding extra additives can actually
    degrade the quality of the oil.
    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm

    By the way, I would stay away from jiffy lube.
    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/jiffy_lube.htm
    Try to find a good independent shop in your area that specializes on Hondas.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Sep 6, 2003
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    Paul Cardoza Guest

    3rd oil change???? Give me a break. It killed me to hold out for
    5,000mi and in went the Mobil-1 0-20! I swear I heard the car thank me
    when I drove away from the garage!!!!!!

    '03 Accord V6 w/L-NAV
     
    Paul Cardoza, Sep 11, 2003
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  10. John Smith

    Bill Freeman Guest

    Mobil 1 will give you excellent winter starting and low wear because
    it "flows" at low temperatures and won't lose viscosity at high temps.
    Additives aren't needed. Just change your oil according to warranty. Mobil
    1 costs about $3-4/qt, to which you'd add $2-5 for the oil filter. What was
    the "labor" charge on your oil change? Find a local garage or change the
    oil yourself. My Acura Integra is in its 13th year, 77,000 miles .. . all
    on synthetic (Mobil 1) 5w-30. Out of warranty oil change is every 6,000
    miles, irrespective of time. NEVER a problem.
     
    Bill Freeman, Sep 14, 2003
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