Honda "Drive by Wire" question... what if the power goes out?

It's old news in cars, too. I recall being completely amazed upon
reading the Helm manual for my girlfriend's 2 yr old '87 Cad De Ville
and learning I could access and read and manually manipulate all the
car's control voltages from the environmental control display. And
sure enough, the throttle valve opening was a 0-10 volt range from all
the way closed to all the way open. My first look at the wide world
of car computers! Quite the revelation for me at the time.

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Actually, that is not Mercedes' "brake by wire" system. "Brake by wire"
is just how I described, it uses the gas pedal as an electronic input
to adjust the brakes. (Since this is very new technology, Mercedes
still has a hydraulic backup).

However, the system described by Flyingmonk does exist. It's called
"adaptive cruise control". I believe Mercedes was the first to use it
in production cars a couple of years ago. But now everyone is offering
as an option on high-end luxury cars.

http://www.edmunds.com/new/research/mercedesbenz/clkclass.html
http://autorepair.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/aa020202a_3.htm

 

Actually, that is not Mercedes' "brake by wire" system. "Brake by wire"
is just how I described, it uses the gas pedal as an electronic input
to adjust the brakes. (Since this is very new technology, Mercedes
still has a hydraulic backup).

However, the system described by Flyingmonk does exist. It's called
"adaptive cruise control". I believe Mercedes was the first to use it
in production cars a couple of years ago. But now everyone is offering
as an option on high-end luxury cars.

http://www.edmunds.com/new/research/mercedesbenz/clkclass.html
http://autorepair.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/aa020202a_3.htm

 

I know where you're coming from. I personally have only bought manual
cars because I hate software deciding when to shift for me.

This is partially true. You won't get as good feedback from an
electronic linkage as opposed to a physical linkage. Especially for
cases like braking and steering. But there are certain scenarios where
a computer's sensory input is far superior to a human's. For example,
the airbag. Do you want a computer sensor and software deciding when to
deploy the airbag, or would you rather do it manually based on your
human response?

 

I know where you're coming from. I personally have only bought manual
cars because I hate software deciding when to shift for me.

This is partially true. You won't get as good feedback from an
electronic linkage as opposed to a physical linkage. Especially for
cases like braking and steering. But there are certain scenarios where
a computer's sensory input is far superior to a human's. For example,
the airbag. Do you want a computer sensor and software deciding when to
deploy the airbag, or would you rather do it manually based on your
human response?

 

This is a good example of who benefits & who is penalized, i.e., ABS
undoubtedly saves more asses/lives than it costs.

I can understand why manufacturers would put automated vehicle stability
on unstable vehicles like SUVs, same logic as above.

 

This is a good example of who benefits & who is penalized, i.e., ABS
undoubtedly saves more asses/lives than it costs.

I can understand why manufacturers would put automated vehicle stability
on unstable vehicles like SUVs, same logic as above.

 

Huh?

(I'm aware that according to early engineering estimates bumblebees
should not be able to fly)

 

Huh?

(I'm aware that according to early engineering estimates bumblebees
should not be able to fly)

 

If I crash into water I do not want my "flotation device" to be
something I've been farting into for the past couple of years!

 

If I crash into water I do not want my "flotation device" to be
something I've been farting into for the past couple of years!

 

Wow, have you told Intel, AMD, HDD manufacturers, etc., etc.?

 

Wow, have you told Intel, AMD, HDD manufacturers, etc., etc.?

 

If these guys' thinking had predominated, we'd still be living in caves
and hoping the fire doesn't go out.

 

If these guys' thinking had predominated, we'd still be living in caves
and hoping the fire doesn't go out.

 

Once again, o thick skulled one, throttle-by-wire has nothing to do with
the steering. New Hondas still have steering wheels, rack & pinion,
linkage, etc.

 

Once again, o thick skulled one, throttle-by-wire has nothing to do with
the steering. New Hondas still have steering wheels, rack & pinion,
linkage, etc.

 

I would disagree here - the automated systems probably do a better job
than *most* humans, but not the very best (which we all are here, of
course).

 

I would disagree here - the automated systems probably do a better job
than *most* humans, but not the very best (which we all are here, of
course).

 

LOL - I'm sure you intended "brake".