HONDA ENGINEERS SUCK!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Tae Oh, May 3, 2005.

  1. Two years ago I was returning from Phoenix with my family at night. The
    freeway was nearly deserted so I had my high beams on and was cruising at 75
    mph (the speed limit). When I saw the elk in my lane ahead we were plenty
    close, so I braked hard and changed lanes behind her. When I got past, I
    accelerated to what I thought was 60 or 65. A moment later I looked at the
    speedometer to see I was going 93 mph... the adrenaline had changed my
    perception of speed so much it felt slower. Dangerous indeed.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 6, 2005
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  2. My wife has 35 years spotless, and her mother died last year after more than
    50 years spotless. They are/were speedometer watchers. (In case you are
    wondering, I was responsible for two accidents in the early 70s - both while
    I had my eyes on the road.)

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 6, 2005
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    hubcap Guest

    "New" Mini. They're still a blast to drive.

    -Mike
     
    hubcap, May 6, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    Welcome to the Million mile club. I too am a driver (a professional driver)
    with over a million and a half miles in commercial vehicles with no
    collisions or incidents, I do this for a living and for personal reasons.
    That said, every professional driver knows that the key to safety is in the
    operation of the vehicle within the compliance of the rules of the road and
    road conditions. A speedometer is just one method to employ compliance.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, May 6, 2005
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    Ted B. Guest

    What was dangerous? You didn't know you were doing 93 until you looked at
    the speedometer. That right there tells me that you were most likely
    driving in a safe, sane, reasonable manner (even if a bit above the speed
    limit). When you realized you were doing 93MPH, what is it about that magic
    number (93MPH) that, all by itself, makes driving dangerous? Again,
    enlighten us. -Dave
     
    Ted B., May 6, 2005
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    Ted B. Guest

    Welcome to the Million mile club. I too am a driver (a professional
    Again I will ask, if the speedometer was broken, could you not drive from
    point A to point B safely? The speedometer has NO use during driving,
    unless you ramble off onto a tangent about speed limits. What if all
    speedometers were banned? Would you continue to drive safely for the next
    million miles without it? Very Likely. I know I'd never miss it. -Dave
     
    Ted B., May 6, 2005
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    Bob Ward Guest


    If your attention span is that limited, you have no business driving
    at all.

    You must be a sock puppet - I can't imagine two people coming up with
    such idiotic advice independently.
     
    Bob Ward, May 6, 2005
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    Bob Ward Guest


    Try navigating using directions involving mileage.
     
    Bob Ward, May 6, 2005
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    Bob Ward Guest


    And you think that you know more about designing for proper handling
    than the engineers who created the car?

    Get real.
     
    Bob Ward, May 6, 2005
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    Ted B. Guest

    OK, then enlighten us. What does a speedometer have to do with *driving*?
    Most people would use an odometer for that, or even a trip odometer. -Dave
     
    Ted B., May 6, 2005
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    Jason Guest

    I have some advice for the person that wrote that speedometers should not
    be installed in cars.
    I have a neighbor that checks her speedometer very often and has never
    received a ticket for speeding. However, she has had 5 accidents because
    she has a cell phone next to her ear every time have ever seen her driving
    her car. I think that you should subscribe to a cell phone newsgroup and
    let those people know that it's dangerous to drive while talking on a cell
    phone. I should note that I check my speedometer on a regular basis and
    have not ever had an accident that was my fault.
     
    Jason, May 6, 2005
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  12. Where there is one elk there are more elk, and they all are colored to blend
    into the night and are the size of horses. If I had a scare from one using
    the cruise control at 75 mph, what do you suppose the effect of seeing an
    elk loom in front of the car at 93 mph would be, as opposed to 60 or 65
    (which I intended to be doing). 93 isn't magic, but it represents *twice*
    the stopping distance of 60 mph. Dropping my speed by 30 mph made it seem
    very slow to my hopped-up mind, but it was a lot safer than 90+ was.
    Ignoring the speedometer could have been a very Bad Thing.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 7, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    From the old school viewpoint, it's hard to think of them as being Minis.
    Their just too big! {;^)

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, May 7, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    How do you measure your speed, or distance travelled? The speedometer is a
    necessary part of the vehicle, whether you think so or not.
    I'd rather see the fools that disregard the speed limits banned. That would
    increase safety on our roads, no matter where in the world you (generic you,
    not you in particular) are located.
    Of course, it just wouldn't be legal to operate without a speedometer. And
    (although, you seem to have a phobia agaisnt this being mentioned), there
    would be more people exceeding the speed limit than there are now. This
    would be due to the fact, that very few people can accurately deduce the
    speed that they are travelling in a vehicle.
    Well, I would. It helps keep me legal and it also helps me keep my pay
    straight.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, May 7, 2005
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    John Guest

    Your perception doesn't matter unless you're used to driving in different
    conditions (meaning different perceptions depending on your excitement
    level, etc.). Speedometer is not needed for that. It's useful as a testing
    tool and to make sure you don't go over the speed limit. That's about it.

    In fact, most race cars don't have speedometers and the drivers go much
    faster than we do on the streets.

    John
     
    John, May 7, 2005
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    John Guest

    You probably drive like an old woman. (I know, very stereotypical, but it's
    true. Most people who haven't had any accidents, drive like zombies and if
    are ever in a situation that requires reflex/skill will get into one).
     
    John, May 7, 2005
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    John Guest

    How many accidents have you had?
     
    John, May 7, 2005
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    John Guest

    What the hell does that have to do with anything? I have my own preferences.
    Just because the engineers know more than I do doesn't mean they did it to
    my preference. I'm real. That's why I don't put my faith in other people's
    hands because many times what's good for them, is not good for me.

    You don't want your granny riding on a lowered rough rider now do you?
    Grannys want it nice and soft, and smooth, and shakey so they don't break a
    bone, etc. Get my point?

    I'm stronger than the average person and I can handle rougher but more
    precise handling. I want my car to behave like I want it to. If it doesn't,
    there's a bigger chance that I'll get in an accident than if I was 10mph
    over the speed limit 100% of the time.

    Remember that those laws are made by old grannies and granpas whose
    overanalytical nature makes their reflexes go to shit. That's why they need
    all drivers to drive as slow as possible so when they're on the road they
    can "fit in" or else they might get confused by people passing them
    constantly and get scared and do something stupid. That's what order is all
    about...

    Anyway...
     
    John, May 7, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    Now there's an asinine statement.
     
    Brian Smith, May 7, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    One in 1973. Not that that has anything to do with speedometers. Get on
    topic.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, May 7, 2005
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