Honda EX --- mp3?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ivo.welch, Apr 5, 2005.

  1. ivo.welch

    ivo.welch Guest

    has anyone connected an MP3 player to one of these? The EX sound
    system does not seem to have an auxiliary input as far as I can tell.
    FM transmitter only? grrr...

    it is beyond me why car manufacturers are still not selling CD changers
    with the ability to read DVD MP3s. the part cost is about $30. one of
    them can store about 50 CDs, so a DVD changer could easily store 600
    CDs, not the 6 that it currently can hold.

    /iaw
     
    ivo.welch, Apr 5, 2005
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  2. I just bought an old Civic and it came with an Aiwa stereo with an aux
    input. I connected my Palm Zire 71 to it and it cranks out songs I
    downloaded to it (errrr...legally archived from my own CD's, I mean). A
    quick search for aux input head units shows not a huge selection but
    not a big markup over standard units. Maybe some of those DVD video
    units with the little slideout lcd's can play ripped DVD mp3's? Burn a
    disk and head over to Best Buy!
     
    merlotbrougham, Apr 5, 2005
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  3. ivo.welch

    Lex Guest

    the 2005 civic special edition has a 6 disc cd/MP3 player.
     
    Lex, Apr 6, 2005
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  4. I go to iTunes and download songs for $.99 each, then burn them to
    cd's. I can get 17-18 on a cd. These are in mp4 format. Also the new
    '05 EX's come with XM radio.
     
    I'm_a_dreamer, Apr 6, 2005
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  5. ivo.welch

    SoCalMike Guest

    and?

    do steros play mp4 format, as well? i can fit about 130 songs on a CD,
    encoded at 128kbps.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 7, 2005
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  6. ivo.welch

    Lex Guest

    isn't mp4 a "mac" format? usually associated with QuickTime?
     
    Lex, Apr 7, 2005
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  7. Yes, it's a mac format, but you can play them on pc's as well, or burn
    them to cd's and paly in any cd player.
     
    I'm_a_dreamer, Apr 7, 2005
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  8. ivo.welch

    dold Guest

    The FM transmitter is far from ideal.

    I added a simple audio adapter to my 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid stock in-dash
    single CD player. The widget plugs into the 14 pin port used for an
    external CD changer. Now "CD Changer Disc 1, track 1" is an external
    mp3 player. PIE HON98-AUX Auxiliary Input Converter
    <http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piehon98aux.html> $49.95

    This has RCA inputs. I added an RCA-mini cable for $1.50.
    http://makeashorterlink.com/?B34D15D1A has some installation details.
     
    dold, Apr 7, 2005
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  9. ivo.welch

    Randolph Guest

    It is actually M4P, not MP4. MP3 is "MPEG2 Audio Layer 3" (or MPEG1
    Audio Layer 3, depending on who you ask, audio layer 3 is virtually
    identical in MPEG1 and MPEG2), and is an audio compression standard.

    The MPEG4 standard also allows the use of AAC (Advanced Audio Codec),
    which has some advantages over MP3.

    M4A, M4B and M4P are not audio compression standards per se, they are
    standards for encrypting AAC files.

    The Apple Ipod has AAC as the preferred audio compression standard,
    packaged as M4A, M4B or M4P files. In addition, the Ipod will accept MP3
    in both the fixed bit rate and variable bit rate varieties, WAV files
    and a few other formats.

    <RANT>
    At less than $1 / song, I'd be very happy to pay for music if it didn't
    come with all sorts of hassles. If I buy a CD I can bring it anywhere I
    want and play it anywhere I want. If I want to make a mixed CD for the
    car, from CDs I own, I can do it. Don't know about the legality, but I
    feel perfectly justified in doing it. If you buy a song on the web the
    first thing that bites you in the butt is that you can't play it in the
    software you have (OK, I still have Win2k and the media player that came
    with it. It does not support DRM). Every software upgrade causes two
    problems for every one it fixes, so I am not getting a new media player
    just so I can pay for music. Then if you want to move your legally
    purchased music files from one computer to another, copy it to more
    players etc., you get all sorts of license issues. The biggest joke is
    the Napster subscription where you can download as much music as you
    like. Once you stop paying the monthly fees, the music you already
    downloaded will expire! This world has too many MBA's.

    If I should happen to find an MP3 file on the net, I can do with it as I
    please. No hassles, just a small sting of bad conscience.

    </RANT>
     
    Randolph, Apr 7, 2005
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  10. ivo.welch

    SoCalMike Guest

    any ways around that?
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 7, 2005
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  11. ivo.welch

    dold Guest

    I bought one iTunes song. Then I couldn't figure out how to get it onto my
    Sony NetMD discs, which is about the only device I use for playing music.
    Sony changed music services a couple of times, and I've never bought a song
    from them. I hadn't heard about previously "purchased (?)" Napster songs
    disappearing. That's very rude.
     
    dold, Apr 7, 2005
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  12. ivo.welch

    slim Guest

    Go to the library, borrow CD's and rip them at home. ;-)

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    "Bubba got a BJ, BU$H screwed us all!" - Slim
     
    slim, Apr 7, 2005
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  13. ivo.welch

    Randolph Guest

    There are programs out there (like FreeMe) that will remove the
    draconian DRM (Digital rights management) from songs that you have the
    license file for. Potentially you could use this program to remove the
    copy protection before it expires, except I don't know if Napster uses
    DRM or some other rights management system.
     
    Randolph, Apr 7, 2005
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  14. ivo.welch

    Randolph Guest

    iTunes is set up deliberately to work with only the iPod line of music
    players. I have never used iTunes, but my first test would be to burn
    the songs from iTunes to CD and then try to rip the CD to MP3 files. If
    some sort of copy protection is put on the CD, it can usually be worked
    around by simply turing "auto insert notification" off for your CD-ROM
    drive. The interesting thing about iTunes is that the files are sent
    un-protected to you computer. Apple's copy protection is only added
    after the song arrives at your computer. A program called PyMusique
    works in much the same way as the iTunes software, but it does not add
    the copy protection. That way you can buy songs from iTunes and use them
    however you want. In Europe, the record industry has indicated that
    since PyMusique does not actually break any copy protection mechanism
    (it just snags the songs before they are protected) they don't think
    they have ground for prosecution.
     
    Randolph, Apr 7, 2005
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    dold Guest

    That was related as a working solution by someone.
    I don't want to burn to CD, though. Even CD-RW seems like a silly extra
    step to me. I like my NetMD, and I bought it just before iPod came out,
    but it seems to be totally abandoned by Sony. RealPlayer has an addon to
    write to it, which probebly works with their downloads, but pretty much all
    I've done is copy my CDs to MiniDisc.
    I think about iPod occasionally. I also think about a 512MB MP3 player,
    downloading an occasional assortment from my PC, which becomes just a
    storehouse for music data, never used to play it. Then I think about some
    WiFi gadget to play music at home from the PC storehouse.

    Then I just stay with what I have ;-)
     
    dold, Apr 7, 2005
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    SoCalMike Guest

    i was under the impression that MD was dead the minute CD burners came
    available, in 98 or so. hell, even DAT is dead, unless youre a
    professional recording person.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 7, 2005
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  17. ivo.welch

    Randolph Guest

    DAT certainly has limited appeal these days. MD is still alive, though.
    With he current models you can copy MP3 files to the MD as well as using
    it with the older ATRAC compression. The capacity of one MD is up to 1
    GB.

    The problem remains that if you have a player that requires plain old
    MP3 files, you don't have many options aside from free downloading. It
    is actually kind of funny, the recording industry has pushed so hard for
    encryption and digital rights management that the only viable option for
    many is to steal music.


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    Randolph, Apr 8, 2005
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  18. ivo.welch

    dold Guest

    I hadn't thought about DAT or any "large" minidisc player.

    I considered an MP3-capable portable CD player, a solid-state RAM MP3
    player of about 256MB, and the MiniDisc. The MiniDisc is a lot smaller
    than CD, with disks about 160MB, five hours of the Sony format. The MP3
    player is smaller still, and I presumed I would periodically download a
    fresh 256MB, just like I swap minidiscs.

    I don't consider a standard writable audio CDROM a substitute, because of
    playing time limitations.

    Portable MD is reduced to a niche machine, but the support for it is sorely
    lacking. The first iPod probably made it a poor choice, and the Mini-iPod
    makes it almost obsolete.
     
    dold, Apr 8, 2005
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