honda haines book?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by stylesandsmiles, Nov 14, 2004.

  1. What are the haines book about?
    Someone told me to buy it, for my car's make and model!
    They said they teach you how to do all tune-ups, and minor repairs!
    Is this truE?
     
    stylesandsmiles, Nov 14, 2004
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  2. stylesandsmiles

    kyle lallave Guest

    yea its true...it also tells u how much torque u need to do for some parts
    and tells you wwhere parts are and how to fix it....if ur gonan work on ur
    car i highly rec. the haines book
     
    kyle lallave, Nov 14, 2004
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  3. stylesandsmiles

    Caroline Guest

    What year is your Honda?

    The entire Chiltons and/or Haynes manual may be free online at
    www.autozone.com if it's a 1995 or earlier year.

    I think Chilton's is better than Haynes, BTW.

    Also, http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/workshopmanuals2.html may have
    the manual for your car free online as well.

    The best manual is said to be those put out by www.helminc.com ,
    but my impression is that Chilton's, for one, is identical
    (verbatim!) for the DIYer jobs that most of us do.

    Public libraries also almost always have Chilton's or Haynes
    manuals specific to one's cars. I used the library for years
    until I broke down and bought a Chilton's for my 91 Civic from
    Ebay this past summer. ($7 total). I use it a lot.
     
    Caroline, Nov 14, 2004
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    kiselink Guest

    Helminc sells the original factory provided shop manuals. It is the
    offiical source and is rich with information. I have one for my Honda
    and find it superior to the general over the counter manuals like
    haynes and chilton which try to cover many years and models of the
    car. There is a significant difference in price.

    The problem with all these manuals is that they don't explain the
    theory on how things work. Haynes (and I presume Chilton) also sell
    books describing general subject areas without reference to a
    particular car. For example, there are brake manuals which gives a
    description of the various components in the brake system. So when
    that brake light comes on, you know it could be that the master
    cylinder has detected low brake fluid or there is a pressure
    difference between the two hydraulic circuits (e.g., left front /
    right rear versus right front/ left rear).
     
    kiselink, Nov 16, 2004
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  5. stylesandsmiles

    Caroline Guest

    Chilton manuals do state on the cover that the manual covers, say, 1984-1995
    Civic/CRX/del Sol, but the manual also has sections, illustrations, and photographs
    marked for and dedicated to specific years and models within this range.

    Also, I believe Chilton's once was much more generic in its instructions (like in the
    1980s?). That has changed.

    I have compared pages of the manuals at
    http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/workshopmanuals2.html (presumably identical to Helm)
    with Chilton manual pages. They are often verbatim the same.
    Well, for the record, I think a new Chilton's manual runs maybe $20, while the Helm
    manual runs around $70.
    I'd say there's a bit of theory in many sections. But it's a publishing conundrum as
    to whether to provide that which the owner may not really need.

    Some guy posted here a few months ago that the Engine control system design
    literature at the plant for a particular make of car was thousands of pages long.
    That's not all theory, but a lot of it was explanation one might desire to get a
    great handle on one's car's engine controls.
     
    Caroline, Nov 16, 2004
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    kiselink Guest

    Here is what I am talking about: 1500 pages dedicated to a 4 cylinder
    1995 accord at $72:

    http://www.helminc.com/helm/product2.asp?class%5F2=AHM&mk=Honda&yr=1995&md=Accord&dt=Shop%2FService+Information&module=&from=result&Style=&Sku=61SV401&itemtype=N&mscsid=H0W3KF0F6VNB9PX9CMSHD51SA4G86U6A
     
    kiselink, Nov 17, 2004
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