Honda key blanks....

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ajpdla, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. ajpdla

    JRK Guest

    <snip>

    | Those expensive keys are called "transponder" keys. Some key shops can
    | provide them, and $80 sounds a little high but maybe not, and can cut the
    | key itself so you can open the door with it. But the car has to be
    | programmed to accept the key as a valid electronic key when you use it to
    | start the car. Don't know about late model Hondas, but with our 2002
    Toyota
    | (Prius) the procedure involves a dance that is guaranteed to make you feel
    | foolish and to make bystanders point and stare:
    | http://www.coastaletech.com/keys.htm. The Honda may require programming at
    | the dealer - I dunno. It's the price of security against car thieves, at
    | least the ones who don't use tow trucks.
    |
    | BTW - don't ever lose the last programmed key, so you don't have any. My
    | understanding is that requires replacement of the security module, for
    many
    | hundreds of dollars.
    |
    | Mike

    Nice 'feature'.

    |
    |
     
    JRK, Dec 15, 2004
    #21
  2. That's pretty much how the Hondas handle programming the system for new
    remote transmitters, but the keys are encoded by a special machine.
    Dealers have the machine; all it takes is one of your original keys.
    They can cut another one and have the transponder code transferred into
    the new key, no problem.

    With the Honda system, there's no issue of "too many keys for the system
    to keep track of". You can make as many keys as you like, since they're
    all duplicates, right down to the transponder encoding.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 15, 2004
    #22
  3. That's pretty much how the Hondas handle programming the system for new
    remote transmitters, but the keys are encoded by a special machine.
    Dealers have the machine; all it takes is one of your original keys.
    They can cut another one and have the transponder code transferred into
    the new key, no problem.

    With the Honda system, there's no issue of "too many keys for the system
    to keep track of". You can make as many keys as you like, since they're
    all duplicates, right down to the transponder encoding.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 15, 2004
    #23
  4. Ah, so it is actually the key that is programmed. I like that idea better.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 16, 2004
    #24
  5. Ah, so it is actually the key that is programmed. I like that idea better.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 16, 2004
    #25
  6. ajpdla

    Howie Guest

    How about your local dealer? You can even try an Isuzu dealer. The price
    should be maybe $5 to $10. max.
    Howard
     
    Howie, Dec 16, 2004
    #26
  7. ajpdla

    Howie Guest

    How about your local dealer? You can even try an Isuzu dealer. The price
    should be maybe $5 to $10. max.
    Howard
     
    Howie, Dec 16, 2004
    #27
  8. Ah, so it is actually the key that is programmed. I like that idea better.[/QUOTE]

    Yes.

    But the tradeoff is that you *must* pay someone to use the transponder
    duplicator to make your key a good one for the ignition. That jumps the
    price of the key to include the labor.

    But I'll take that over paying a bunch for an encoded key that I have to
    teach my car to listen to. Under that scenario, the car has a limit to
    how many keys it can work with. I think that's bad. I'll pay for the
    extra keys to have the privilege of unlimited copies.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 16, 2004
    #28
  9. Ah, so it is actually the key that is programmed. I like that idea better.[/QUOTE]

    Yes.

    But the tradeoff is that you *must* pay someone to use the transponder
    duplicator to make your key a good one for the ignition. That jumps the
    price of the key to include the labor.

    But I'll take that over paying a bunch for an encoded key that I have to
    teach my car to listen to. Under that scenario, the car has a limit to
    how many keys it can work with. I think that's bad. I'll pay for the
    extra keys to have the privilege of unlimited copies.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 16, 2004
    #29
  10. ajpdla

    L Alpert Guest

    I believe you can also get a new programmed key with the VIN from Honda.
     
    L Alpert, Dec 16, 2004
    #30
  11. ajpdla

    L Alpert Guest

    I believe you can also get a new programmed key with the VIN from Honda.
     
    L Alpert, Dec 16, 2004
    #31
  12. I've not heard that. I doubt it; for example, they can't give you the
    radio security code with just the VIN. That requires the radio serial
    number.

    I do believe that there may be some sort of serial number on the
    computer module that may be of use in getting another key blank. I do
    know that you can also replace the computer module, at great expense,
    and that will start you fresh with new keys and code. If you've had
    your keys stolen along with some sort of identifying papers, such that
    the thief could get to your van, people have replaced the computer
    module so that the stolen keys don't work.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 16, 2004
    #32
  13. I've not heard that. I doubt it; for example, they can't give you the
    radio security code with just the VIN. That requires the radio serial
    number.

    I do believe that there may be some sort of serial number on the
    computer module that may be of use in getting another key blank. I do
    know that you can also replace the computer module, at great expense,
    and that will start you fresh with new keys and code. If you've had
    your keys stolen along with some sort of identifying papers, such that
    the thief could get to your van, people have replaced the computer
    module so that the stolen keys don't work.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 16, 2004
    #33
  14. ajpdla

    E. Meyer Guest

    I got spares for my '95 & '96 cars at Home Depot for $2. I don't know of any
    '95s that have the special expensive keys. That came a few years later.
     
    E. Meyer, Dec 16, 2004
    #34
  15. ajpdla

    E. Meyer Guest

    I got spares for my '95 & '96 cars at Home Depot for $2. I don't know of any
    '95s that have the special expensive keys. That came a few years later.
     
    E. Meyer, Dec 16, 2004
    #35
  16. ajpdla

    dold Guest

    Your selling dealer keeps the radio code. It is associated with the VIN in
    case service has to be done, or so you can get it from them if you need it,
    and of course can't locate where you put it.

    I have no idea if the same is true for the keys.

    My new Ford Escape came with no radio key fobs. They magically made the
    ones they took from some other Ford Escape work for my car.
     
    dold, Dec 16, 2004
    #36
  17. ajpdla

    dold Guest

    Your selling dealer keeps the radio code. It is associated with the VIN in
    case service has to be done, or so you can get it from them if you need it,
    and of course can't locate where you put it.

    I have no idea if the same is true for the keys.

    My new Ford Escape came with no radio key fobs. They magically made the
    ones they took from some other Ford Escape work for my car.
     
    dold, Dec 16, 2004
    #37
  18. ajpdla

    ajpdla Guest

    Thank you for the obvious answer. :)

    My nearest Honda dealership is about 150 miles away, round trip. I was
    hoping for something a little more "local", like the Internet, :).

    Aaron
     
    ajpdla, Dec 16, 2004
    #38
  19. ajpdla

    ajpdla Guest

    Thank you for the obvious answer. :)

    My nearest Honda dealership is about 150 miles away, round trip. I was
    hoping for something a little more "local", like the Internet, :).

    Aaron
     
    ajpdla, Dec 16, 2004
    #39
  20. ajpdla

    ajpdla Guest

    The Internet is more "local" than my dealership. But thanks. :)

    Aaron
     
    ajpdla, Dec 16, 2004
    #40
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