Honda key fobs and how to replace when lost

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Guy, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. Guy

    Guy Guest

    No, you had it right the first time.

    What people insist on calling a "fob" is acually the remote transmitter.
    At one time, it was a separate piece. Now it's attached to the key
    itself, and they're still calling it a "fob"? It's not a fob. It's the
    remote transmitter--and when combined, just call it the KEY, for God's
    sake.[/QUOTE]



    Do I understand correctly then.... the black plastic transmitter that
    is part of the key is a "key fob" ? That's what I originally meant
    but I wasn't 100% sure I was correct so I let others correct me. My
    goal here was just to call it whatever made it easy to talk about.
     
    Guy, Jan 4, 2010
    #21
  2. That's the remote transmitter. And it's attached to the key itself,
    isn't it? You can't lose the remote transmitter without losing the key,
    right?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2010
    #22
  3. That's the remote transmitter. And it's attached to the key itself,
    isn't it? You can't lose the remote transmitter without losing the key,
    right?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2010
    #23
  4. sigh. Stop calling it a fob. It's not a fob. It's a remote
    transmitter for locking and unlocking the doors, and it is completely
    separate and distinct from the chip that's in the key that tells the car
    you are using a legitimate key to start the car.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2010
    #24
  5. sigh. Stop calling it a fob. It's not a fob. It's a remote
    transmitter for locking and unlocking the doors, and it is completely
    separate and distinct from the chip that's in the key that tells the car
    you are using a legitimate key to start the car.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2010
    #25
  6. Guy

    pws Guest


    http://www.newkeyfob.com

    Pat
     
    pws, Jan 4, 2010
    #26
  7. Guy

    pws Guest


    http://www.newkeyfob.com

    Pat
     
    pws, Jan 4, 2010
    #27
  8. Guy

    Guy Guest


    Yes. I was concerned about losing this item (for lack of the correct
    terminology).

    Now I have to do more research or better call the dealer and see what
    they call this thing (plastic transmitter that is part of the key).
    I'm confused what to call it now :(
     
    Guy, Jan 4, 2010
    #28
  9. Guy

    Guy Guest


    Yes. I was concerned about losing this item (for lack of the correct
    terminology).

    Now I have to do more research or better call the dealer and see what
    they call this thing (plastic transmitter that is part of the key).
    I'm confused what to call it now :(
     
    Guy, Jan 4, 2010
    #29
  10. Guy

    Guy Guest


    See this link and note the item named "Ridgeline Remotes" . This is
    basically what I am trying to talk about. The Accord has one more
    button to release the trunk but as I recall this is what my CR-V key
    looks like.

    http://www.carandtruckremotes.com/honda-remotes.html
     
    Guy, Jan 4, 2010
    #30
  11. Guy

    Guy Guest


    See this link and note the item named "Ridgeline Remotes" . This is
    basically what I am trying to talk about. The Accord has one more
    button to release the trunk but as I recall this is what my CR-V key
    looks like.

    http://www.carandtruckremotes.com/honda-remotes.html
     
    Guy, Jan 4, 2010
    #31
  12. Guy

    E. Meyer Guest

    Yes, you should've gotten the little tags with the numbers. They identify
    the key. Additionally, there is a chip in the key (or maybe its in the
    remote, but doesn't really matter, since its all a single piece).

    To make a replacement key for this thing, they use the number on the tag
    (that you didn't get) to cut the teeth on the key, then program the car's
    computer to accept the new ID chip that is in the new key (which will allow
    it to start the car), then program the computer to accept the transmitter in
    the end of the key to make the lock/unlock buttons work.

    You have to go to a dealer to get the "chip" programmed in. The other stuff
    you can get done elsewhere.
     
    E. Meyer, Jan 4, 2010
    #32
  13. Guy

    E. Meyer Guest

    Yes, you should've gotten the little tags with the numbers. They identify
    the key. Additionally, there is a chip in the key (or maybe its in the
    remote, but doesn't really matter, since its all a single piece).

    To make a replacement key for this thing, they use the number on the tag
    (that you didn't get) to cut the teeth on the key, then program the car's
    computer to accept the new ID chip that is in the new key (which will allow
    it to start the car), then program the computer to accept the transmitter in
    the end of the key to make the lock/unlock buttons work.

    You have to go to a dealer to get the "chip" programmed in. The other stuff
    you can get done elsewhere.
     
    E. Meyer, Jan 4, 2010
    #33
  14. Guy

    Al Moodie Guest

    I just went through this process for an 06 Civic EX I bought about a
    month ago, only had one key with it.

    Local Dealers wanted:
    Buy new key (key and remote transmitter combined) $54 - $94 each
    Cut and program up to three keys at one time $52 - $99.50 total

    I bought keys on Ebay $25 - $35 and had them programmed at the
    cheapest local dealer. I'm in MD.

    One oddity on Ebay. One guy sold me a used key, with transmitter
    where the blade had already been cut (perhaps from a wreck in breakers
    yard, who knows). He combined this with a new key "shell key", a
    transmitter key, with uncut blade, and with the innards removed. I
    had to remove the innards from the used transmitter key and put then
    into the shell with the uncut blade, making a complete key which I
    could take for cutting and programming.

    Al Moodie
     
    Al Moodie, Jan 4, 2010
    #34
  15. not unless Honda has changed something recently, that's not how it works.

    Making key copies involves copying the security information from a
    functioning key over to the new key. There's a specific device for that.

    But if you lose all your keys and have no way to copy the security
    information to a new key, that's a whole new ball game. To create a new
    security setup for the ignition is expensive.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2010
    #35
  16. not unless Honda has changed something recently, that's not how it works.

    Making key copies involves copying the security information from a
    functioning key over to the new key. There's a specific device for that.

    But if you lose all your keys and have no way to copy the security
    information to a new key, that's a whole new ball game. To create a new
    security setup for the ignition is expensive.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2010
    #36
  17. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    translation: i'm bored and i want to "play".
    "thinking"??? that's clearly untrue - you'd have figured everything
    out from google by now if you just wanted the info. otoh, you have time
    to post no less than 8 times. see point above.

    you're a complete waste of electrons.
     
    jim beam, Jan 4, 2010
    #37
  18. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    translation: i'm bored and i want to "play".
    "thinking"??? that's clearly untrue - you'd have figured everything
    out from google by now if you just wanted the info. otoh, you have time
    to post no less than 8 times. see point above.

    you're a complete waste of electrons.
     
    jim beam, Jan 4, 2010
    #38
  19. Guy

    Guy Guest



    LOL. Try looking in the mirror.
     
    Guy, Jan 4, 2010
    #39
  20. Guy

    Guy Guest



    LOL. Try looking in the mirror.
     
    Guy, Jan 4, 2010
    #40
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