Honda key fobs and how to replace when lost

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That would be Honda. And they've been doing this for years now.

This does not necessarily mean the dealer's people are going to be using
that term. They may just call it a "key", without differentiating between
the fob and the key, which Honda identifies separately even if they are
integral.

Very confusing, I know.

 

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That would be Honda. And they've been doing this for years now.

This does not necessarily mean the dealer's people are going to be using
that term. They may just call it a "key", without differentiating between
the fob and the key, which Honda identifies separately even if they are
integral.

Very confusing, I know.

 

Even MORE confusing stuff!

I've just acquired a batch of new TSBs, which take me right up to today
for currency.

The new docs make it more clear that Honda actually calls the "fob" a
GRIP. The word "fob" no longer appears in the new documentation.

More intensive reading of the older docs reveal that Honda said the grip
housed the transmitter/transponder, and could contain "fob" functions,
specifically, operable buttons. From this I inferred that the grip was
CALLED a "fob", even though the word "grip" does appear as a descriptor
for the head of the key assembly.

My inference was therefore incorrect.

So.

To clarify the official Honda terminology as of today (official terms in
CAPITALS)...

The squiggly metal part that goes into the locks: KEY
The plastic part you hold on to: GRIP or TRANSMITTER
The entire assembly consisting of both parts: PROGRAMMED IGNITION KEY

The GRIP/TRANSMITTER has the TRANSPONDER chip inside of it.

The TRANSPONDER chip is what communicates with the IMMOBILIZER-KEYLESS
CONTROL UNIT inside the steering column.

Sometimes the GRIP/TRANSMITTER is replaceable separately from the KEY,
sometimes it is not.

The GRIP/TRANSMITTER can have "fob" functions (buttons). The "valet"
versions of the programmed key assembly have a TRANSPONDER, but do not
have buttons.

Honda no longer uses the term "FOB".

It would be nice if acknowledgements of my mistake were gracious and not
of an "I told you so" nature. Few on Usenet are willing to admit error.
I'm one of those few.

 

Even MORE confusing stuff!

I've just acquired a batch of new TSBs, which take me right up to today
for currency.

The new docs make it more clear that Honda actually calls the "fob" a
GRIP. The word "fob" no longer appears in the new documentation.

More intensive reading of the older docs reveal that Honda said the grip
housed the transmitter/transponder, and could contain "fob" functions,
specifically, operable buttons. From this I inferred that the grip was
CALLED a "fob", even though the word "grip" does appear as a descriptor
for the head of the key assembly.

My inference was therefore incorrect.

So.

To clarify the official Honda terminology as of today (official terms in
CAPITALS)...

The squiggly metal part that goes into the locks: KEY
The plastic part you hold on to: GRIP or TRANSMITTER
The entire assembly consisting of both parts: PROGRAMMED IGNITION KEY

The GRIP/TRANSMITTER has the TRANSPONDER chip inside of it.

The TRANSPONDER chip is what communicates with the IMMOBILIZER-KEYLESS
CONTROL UNIT inside the steering column.

Sometimes the GRIP/TRANSMITTER is replaceable separately from the KEY,
sometimes it is not.

The GRIP/TRANSMITTER can have "fob" functions (buttons). The "valet"
versions of the programmed key assembly have a TRANSPONDER, but do not
have buttons.

Honda no longer uses the term "FOB".

It would be nice if acknowledgements of my mistake were gracious and not
of an "I told you so" nature. Few on Usenet are willing to admit error.
I'm one of those few.

 

I will admit to being wrong, ands yes, that is a rare thing, especially
on usenet.

Thanks Tegger, for being one of the truly helpful ones, friendly and
lacking in insults.

At least two people who post here could really stand to take a lesson or
two from you.

Pat

 

I will admit to being wrong, ands yes, that is a rare thing, especially
on usenet.

Thanks Tegger, for being one of the truly helpful ones, friendly and
lacking in insults.

At least two people who post here could really stand to take a lesson or
two from you.

Pat

 

I agree about Tegger and most others but may I ask you Pat, who are
the other two? Let me guess.... Beam is one of them. He gets a
delight going outa his way giving me a hard time.

 

I agree about Tegger and most others but may I ask you Pat, who are
the other two? Let me guess.... Beam is one of them. He gets a
delight going outa his way giving me a hard time.

 

The dealer lost my key during service once
and issued a set of replacements.
They have to reprogram the vehicle to
accept a key, and cant copy old keys they said.
Thats why they or a road service place cant
just send out a locksmith with a replacement key.
This may only apply to fairly recent models.

 

The dealer lost my key during service once
and issued a set of replacements.
They have to reprogram the vehicle to
accept a key, and cant copy old keys they said.
Thats why they or a road service place cant
just send out a locksmith with a replacement key.
This may only apply to fairly recent models.

 

It applies to any key with an immobilizer chip in it, pretty much every car
since about 2000. The car has to be programmed to accept the new one. They
don't have to issue all new keys, but they do have to have all the keys, new
and old when they program the new one.

Any locksmith cam make a key to open the doors. If you want it to start the
car, then the programming has to be done.

 

It applies to any key with an immobilizer chip in it, pretty much every car
since about 2000. The car has to be programmed to accept the new one. They
don't have to issue all new keys, but they do have to have all the keys, new
and old when they program the new one.

Any locksmith cam make a key to open the doors. If you want it to start the
car, then the programming has to be done.

 

a few days ago,I posted here a link to an article by IIRC,Slate magazine
that told how one can bypass the immobilizer on a Honda by using the
emergency brake,pulling it in a coded sequence,that is unique to a car's
VIN. the author was able to do it over the phone.

I found the article on Google.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

 

a few days ago,I posted here a link to an article by IIRC,Slate magazine
that told how one can bypass the immobilizer on a Honda by using the
emergency brake,pulling it in a coded sequence,that is unique to a car's
VIN. the author was able to do it over the phone.

I found the article on Google.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

 

poor baby want momma make bad man go away? baby go cry?

or poor baby get smart not get hard time if not make dumb **** time waste?

 

poor baby want momma make bad man go away? baby go cry?

or poor baby get smart not get hard time if not make dumb **** time waste?

 

Whatever you say pal. You are a class act.

 

Whatever you say pal. You are a class act.

 

poor baby make dumb **** go time waste!!!

 

poor baby make dumb **** go time waste!!!