Honda-Powered SATURN VUE ?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Scott, Feb 11, 2005.

  1. Scott

    Scott Guest

    My father is currently in the market for a new SUV, so we went to the
    Auto Show today to comparison shop the various offerings of both import
    and domestic marques. Among the very last SUVs we considered was a 2005
    Saturn Vue with AWD and V-6 power . . . supplied by HONDA ?!?!

    At first, I thought I'd simply misunderstood what the Saturn sales rep
    had said, but when I asked him to clarify his statement, he reiterated
    that General Motors partnered with Honda for powerplants. Specifically,
    Honda furnishes V-6 engines to Saturn for their Vue, but that the
    available four-cylinder engines are GM units.

    So, I'm curious if anyone else out there had been aware that the V-6
    Saturn Vues are Honda-powered? Further, is there anyone with ownership
    experience with these vehicles who'd care to share their observations
    and opinions with this discussion group?

    My father is actually looking for a smaller-sized, car-based SUV as
    opposed to a large, truck-based SUV, so if you have any other
    suggestions for what to add to our search list, I would greatly
    appreciate your insight and input.
     
    Scott, Feb 11, 2005
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  2. Scott

    y_p_w Guest

    Yep. Some of the V6's in the VUE are made by GM though.
    Read the Saturn group. Apparently this V6 in the VUE is not one that
    Honda uses in its own vehicles. There have been some complaints
    that it's not a terribly good in terms of noise, vibration, and
    harshness.
    CR-V, of course.
     
    y_p_w, Feb 11, 2005
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  3. Scott

    motsco_ _ Guest


    ------------------------------

    Drive train performs flawlessly until 300,000 Km . . . Unfortunately the
    rest of the vehicle only lasts until 120,000 Km. Fit and finish is
    apparently typically poor.

    Sign in and do a SEARCH at hondasuv.com.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Feb 11, 2005
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  4. Scott

    Dave Guest

    Yes. Old news. The deal was made around 2002. The Honda V6 and
    5-speed auto was put in Vues, I believe, starting with '04 models.
    As to the claim that it is a V6 *not* used in Hondas, that is news
    to me. And I don't think it is an accurate statement. Honda
    wouldn't make such a small run engine just for a partnership. It
    is made at the same plant as v6's for Accords, Pilots,
    Odysseys. If it is thrashier (don't know if that is the case), it
    is probably due to the application. Things like plastic body
    panels, amount of sound insulation, and engine mounts can make a
    big difference in perceived refinement.
     
    Dave, Feb 11, 2005
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  5. Same engine as in V6 Accords. Slight modifications to produce 250 HP
    for the Vue application instead of the 240 in the Accord.

    Ken
     
    Kenneth J. Harris, Feb 11, 2005
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  6. Yep. Common knowledge around here for quite awhile.

    Saturn is contractually obligated to keep it very low key; there's no
    Honda label of any kind anywhere on the car, for example. I'm surprised
    that the auto show guy said anything about it.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Feb 11, 2005
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  7. Acctually, Saturn used Honda's engine a while ago in some of their
    earlier sc models. GMs own engine in the car didn't live very long. (I
    forget the exact problem, but I think it was head gasket failure.)
     
    christopherm_wood, Feb 11, 2005
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  8. Scott

    SandroF1 Guest

    Errr, this is NOT the Accord V6. This is the V6 from the Pilot/last gen Ody.
     
    SandroF1, Feb 11, 2005
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  9. Scott

    Dave Guest


    Huh? Where did you come up with this?
    The small Saturns had lost-foam cast 1.9L engines, SOHC and DOHC.
    Made, IIRC, in Tonawanda NY. No Honda engine like this comes to
    mind. The newer small Saturns have the GM Ecotec 2.2L engine.
    This is absolutely a GM engine. Tonawanda and Spring Hill.

    The LS used the same 2.2 or a GM U.K. supplied 3.0L-6.
     
    Dave, Feb 11, 2005
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  10. Scott

    SoCalMike Guest

    its GMs answer for everything, basically. itll be in evertyhing from the
    new cobalt to the smaller saabs. pretty sad seeing them spread their
    cancer worldwide. taking individualistic companies with a proud history
    of engineering and performance and turning them to shit.
     
    SoCalMike, Feb 12, 2005
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  11. Scott

    Dave Guest

    [blah, blah]

    Excuse me, but you don't know what you are talking about. Have a
    nice day.
     
    Dave, Feb 12, 2005
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  12. You are correct--it's the 3.5L engine, not the 3.0
     
    Kenneth J. Harris, Feb 12, 2005
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    Mike Smith Guest

    The V6 in the Accord (3.0L) is not the same as the one in the Pilot,
    Odyssey, and Acura MDX (3.5L). The one in the VUE is the 3.5L, IIRC.
    Earlier VUE models had the GM 3.0V6 from the LS2/L300; I don't know if
    that one is still available in the VUE.
     
    Mike Smith, Feb 14, 2005
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  14. Scott

    Dave Guest

    Nope (well, at least I'm pretty sure it is "no"). The 3.0V6 was a
    GM engine made in the UK. It had been used for years in the Opel
    Omega. If you have a link to a reputable source that says
    otherwise, I'd be interested.
     
    Dave, Feb 14, 2005
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  15. Scott

    Mike Smith Guest


    Nope (well, at least I'm pretty sure it is "no"). The 3.0V6 was a
    GM engine made in the UK.[/QUOTE]

    Yup, which is also where the 3.0V6 in the LS2/L300 came from.
     
    Mike Smith, Feb 19, 2005
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  16. Scott

    Dave Guest


    Sorry, brain spasm. You wrote "GM", I somehow read "old Honda".
    Mea Culpa.

    And no, the 3.0V6 is no longer available in the VUE. It is either
    the Honda 3.5-6 or the GM 2.2-4.
     
    Dave, Feb 19, 2005
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