Honda'a New Engine

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Al, Jan 12, 2005.

  1. Al

    Al Guest

    Honda has a new engine that uses the
    Atcheson & Topeka cycle (or something like that).

    How is the fuel mixed with the air?
    What happens when the air/fuel is being forced out
    of the cylinder before the intake valve closes?

    That is what happens, isn't it?
     
    Al, Jan 12, 2005
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  2. Al

    Jim Yanik Guest

    It could be a direct injection(into the cylinder,not the intake plenum)
    form of 2-cycle engine. This has been developed for diesel ICEs(internal
    combustion engines=ICE)

    Any unburned hydrocarbons in todays engines get burned by the catalytic
    converter,that may be what's planned for this other type of ICE.
    Or part of the exhaust may get fed back into the intake air.(EGR)
    Or both.

    Just SWAG on my part.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jan 13, 2005
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  3. Al

    Jason Guest

    You should consider visiting a magazine shop and buying a copy of
    Honda Tuning magazine. If you like it, subscribe to it. It's my
    guess that there will be an article about the new engine in the
    current edition or the next edition.
     
    Jason, Jan 13, 2005
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  4. Al

    Joseph Wind Guest

    Is that the engine that runs on only 2 cylinders when the RPMs are constant,
    like in highway speeds? I read that a while back, seemed interesting,
    actually it was printed in a Japanese auto magazine that a friend translated
    to me. Sort of the 4-6-8 engine developed by GM in the 70s, or was that the
    8-6-4? But I digressed.

    I think the ECU shuts off the injector to the unused cylinders, also the
    valves are frozen using the same technology of V-Tech, but in reverse.
    Supposed the engine gets about 25km/l which equates to about 60mpg.
     
    Joseph Wind, Jan 14, 2005
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  5. I remember that (although IIRC it was a 4-8 or 8-4). I don't know if it ever
    made it into production, though. In any event it faded away, and I never
    knew why.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 14, 2005
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  6. Al

    Al Guest

    No, it's entirely different.

    I changes the valve timing and substantiall increases the
    compression ratio.
     
    Al, Jan 14, 2005
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    K`Tetch Guest

    Such an engine is in the Chrysler C300 - at least in the UK.Runs on 4
    most of the time, and 8 when you need it.
     
    K`Tetch, Jan 14, 2005
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  8. 8-6-4, Cadillac, died an ignominious death, very crude control
    electronics.

    I think the concept has been revived and implemented by M-B, if not
    others.
     
    Harold Adrian Russell Philby, Jan 14, 2005
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  9. Al

    Randolph Guest

    Yes, Daimler-Chrysler is using it in their Mercedes, Dodge and Chrysler
    brands. Honda is using it as well in some of their V6 engines. For more,
    Google for "Cylinder deactivation"
     
    Randolph, Jan 14, 2005
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  10. Ah, I've had lots of cars with Automatic Cylinder Deactivation. Most of the
    time it was all cylinders or random cylinders, though.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 14, 2005
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  11. Al

    Joseph Wind Guest

    How would the compression ratio change if there is no force induction
    involved? Maybe your trying to describe the Air to Fuel Ratio, that would
    make more sense.
     
    Joseph Wind, Jan 15, 2005
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  12. My guess is that it is like the engine Toyota uses in the Prius, using valve
    timing (particularly late intake valve closing) to change the compression
    ratio. The Prius engine has a 13:1 expansion ratio but uses 87 octane fuel.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 15, 2005
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