Hondas speedometers. Use DRAC modules or what?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Charles Lasitter, Apr 9, 2005.

  1. A few decades ago when I worked on cars life was so simple. You had
    a speedometer cable attached to a gear in the tranny, and if the
    speedometer was wrong, you just changed the number of teeth on the
    gear until you were happy with the result. That was then ...

    Today I know that some cars use a Digital Ratio Adapter Controller
    (DRAC) module to take readings from a sensor, apply some multiplier
    value and then send the result on to yet another electronic brain
    assembly which uses that value and then displays your speed in your
    speedometer / odometer display.

    There are even web sites on how you modify them to correct your
    speedometer if it's wrong for no reason in particular, or because you
    changed your tires / wheels in some non-standard way.

    How does it work for Honda? What are the parts that do this
    calculation?

    -- CL.

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    Charles Lasitter, Apr 9, 2005
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    halo2 guy Guest

    To answer your question I have to ask you a question.

    What is your end goal here? What are you trying to do?
     
    halo2 guy, Apr 9, 2005
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  3. Change the speedometer reading, if necessary.

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    Charles Lasitter, Apr 9, 2005
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    halo2 guy Guest

    I have a 96 accord 4 cyl auto vtec and I have the factory service manual.
    There is no mention of calibration of this unit that I can find.

    Hopefully somebody can answer your question
     
    halo2 guy, Apr 10, 2005
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    SoCalMike Guest

    you shouldnt need to, unless youre going with a completely off the wall
    wheel/tire combo.

    as it stands now ,your speedo might read up to 10% higher than you
    actually drive. bigger wheels/tires will lower that ratio to something
    more acceptable.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 10, 2005
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  6. With some auto makers (BMW), that's 10% PLUS 2.4 mph. It means that
    you could be doing 50 with the speedometer reading 57.4 mph, and BMW
    would decline to fix it because it was "within spec".

    I don't know if Honda has the same spec or not, but if my speedometer
    were off by more than two miles per hour at that speed, I'd want to
    know that it could be adjusted so that the correct speed was shown.

    Now I know that the odometer can be reprogrammed to display a
    different number of miles (which I'm not so happy about), but I'm not
    sure about what can be done for the speedometer.

    Now it may turn out that nothing can be adjusted, but I still plan to
    get the speedometer checked because I'd like to know my actual speed
    even if I can't change it.

    -- CL.

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    Charles Lasitter, Apr 10, 2005
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    gmccx Guest

    That has always been a minor source of irritation for me. In my SOL
    VTEC, if the speed limit is 45, I need to drive what appears to be 55 on
    my speedo, which is about 5 over the limit plus 5 for the speedo error,
    and I've driven right through numerous radar traps like this without
    being stopped.

    I gave some thought to buying something like one of the below items, but
    the $ was always needed elsewhere, and I actually know nothing about how
    well either of these works.

    http://www.ricks2k.com/products/yellowbox.php

    http://www.ntwonline.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=48&Product_ID=1973&CATID=15

    When this speedo error is really a problem is when I get in my wife's
    Mazda which has a speedo that is a lot closer to right. If I drive *it*
    10 over the limit, I'll end up with a ticket. Just have to remember
    which car I'm driving.
     
    gmccx, Apr 10, 2005
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  8. Dude! Killer info!

    If it worked (research needed), it would be much less costly than a
    speeding ticket!

    -- CL.

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    Charles Lasitter, Apr 10, 2005
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    SoCalMike Guest

    a GPS would be the best thing to do that, and it makes a neat
    map-viewing toy, too.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 10, 2005
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    Randolph Guest

    Charles Lasitter wrote:

    What do you mean you can't change it? Just let of the throttle, and the
    actual speed will change.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
     
    Randolph, Apr 11, 2005
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    lasitter Guest

    http://www.ricks2k.com/products/yellowbox.php

    Rick Hesel claims his works with Honda Accords ...
    http://www.ntwonline.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=48&Product_ID=1973&CATID=15

    These guys (called them) said their's does not work.
     
    lasitter, Apr 11, 2005
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    gmccx Guest

    Maybe if you try out one of the 'Rick' models, you could report back as
    to whether it works as advertised or not. That would be good information.
     
    gmccx, Apr 12, 2005
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