Horsepower cuts embarass Asians

jim beam · Mar 19, 2006

DTJ said:

That is not the issue. There was a show on TV a few weeks ago that
discussed how they spray the planes with something like an inch of
some chemical, that prevents all kinds of problems.

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Dave
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the cockpit canopies are screened and the engine nacelles blocked up,
but that's about it. take a vacation to tucson some time and check one
of the bone yards out for yourself.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend · Mar 19, 2006

Michael said:

Arizona, for one. Rust is unknown in the Phoenix area except in cars brought
in from areas where roads are salted.

Mike
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It's not just the no road salt. Also the low humidity.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend · Mar 19, 2006

Michael said:

Arizona, for one. Rust is unknown in the Phoenix area except in cars brought
in from areas where roads are salted.

Mike
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It's not just the no road salt. Also the low humidity.

Mike Hunter · Mar 19, 2006

Are you referring to the aluminum airplanes, the canvas airplanes or the
wooden airplanes? LOL

mike hunt

Mike Hunter · Mar 19, 2006

Are you referring to the aluminum airplanes, the canvas airplanes or the
wooden airplanes? LOL

mike hunt

Brent P · Mar 19, 2006

Actually, Mazda (which is owned by Ford) did something similar when
they introduced the RX-8, downrating its horsepower to 238 and
offering to buy back vehciles from anyone who felt ripped off. And
don't forget the big debacle over the 1999 Cobra, which was discovered
after owners tested their cars on dynamometers. Ford took so long to
find a fix that they cancelled production on the 2000 Cobras. They
eventually had to replace exhaust systems and other parts in every
1999 Cobra they produced in order to actually achieve the advertised
horsepower.
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I expect very little coverage of this latest issue with the japanese
makes compared with what ford got on the '99 Cobra. Thing is the article
described actual cheating while the Cobra issue seemed more or less the
difference between prototype and production.

The import double standard assures that Ford and GM are duely punished
for such things while for the japanese makes it's some obscure mention
that is caught by a few car guys.

Brent P · Mar 19, 2006

Actually, Mazda (which is owned by Ford) did something similar when
they introduced the RX-8, downrating its horsepower to 238 and
offering to buy back vehciles from anyone who felt ripped off. And
don't forget the big debacle over the 1999 Cobra, which was discovered
after owners tested their cars on dynamometers. Ford took so long to
find a fix that they cancelled production on the 2000 Cobras. They
eventually had to replace exhaust systems and other parts in every
1999 Cobra they produced in order to actually achieve the advertised
horsepower.
Click to expand...

I expect very little coverage of this latest issue with the japanese
makes compared with what ford got on the '99 Cobra. Thing is the article
described actual cheating while the Cobra issue seemed more or less the
difference between prototype and production.

The import double standard assures that Ford and GM are duely punished
for such things while for the japanese makes it's some obscure mention
that is caught by a few car guys.

Brent P · Mar 19, 2006

Near Tucson, (and in nearby California deserts) there are a couple of
airplane graveyards, where thousands of planes sit, virtually rust-
free.
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AL corrodes to dust, it doesn't rust.

Brent P · Mar 19, 2006

Near Tucson, (and in nearby California deserts) there are a couple of
airplane graveyards, where thousands of planes sit, virtually rust-
free.
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AL corrodes to dust, it doesn't rust.

JXStern · Mar 19, 2006

None of the GM and Ford engines that have been tested have shown
power losses. Some have shown power gains. For those who
critcize Detroit for being stupid, one thing is clear: at least
they're smart enough not to lie.
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Detroit cars only go downhill after three years.

J.

JXStern · Mar 19, 2006

None of the GM and Ford engines that have been tested have shown
power losses. Some have shown power gains. For those who
critcize Detroit for being stupid, one thing is clear: at least
they're smart enough not to lie.
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Detroit cars only go downhill after three years.

J.

Mike Hunter · Mar 19, 2006

The word you are looking for is oxidizes

mike hunt

Mike Hunter · Mar 19, 2006

The word you are looking for is oxidizes

mike hunt

dh · Mar 19, 2006

Comments4u said:

Is that new Honda or Toyota less powerful than last years model?
Well, yes, and no. The engines in the new models don't make
any less power than last year's engines, even though the numbers
on the specification page are lower. Its just that the
Asians have been caught playing the loopholes in the standards,
putting in premium gas for horsepower testing while rating
annual fuel cost based on regular, tweaking engine controls to
non-standard settings, and turning off accessories.

http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060313/AUTO01/603130350
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I don't know if anyone else picked up on it but the text at the link bears
no relationship to what follows...

[snip]

After being caught redhanded overstating horsepower,
Hyundai paid cash compensation to over 800,000 owners. "Honda
and Toyota owners aren't like that", said Joseph Camel of the
Brand Research Institute. "They're pretty docile owner groups.
After all, they bought the idea that its normal maintenance to
automatically replace water pumps at 75,000 miles.
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"Joseph Camel?" Joe Camel? R-i-i-g-ht.

[snip]

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dh · Mar 19, 2006

Comments4u said:

Is that new Honda or Toyota less powerful than last years model?
Well, yes, and no. The engines in the new models don't make
any less power than last year's engines, even though the numbers
on the specification page are lower. Its just that the
Asians have been caught playing the loopholes in the standards,
putting in premium gas for horsepower testing while rating
annual fuel cost based on regular, tweaking engine controls to
non-standard settings, and turning off accessories.

http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060313/AUTO01/603130350
Click to expand...

I don't know if anyone else picked up on it but the text at the link bears
no relationship to what follows...

[snip]

After being caught redhanded overstating horsepower,
Hyundai paid cash compensation to over 800,000 owners. "Honda
and Toyota owners aren't like that", said Joseph Camel of the
Brand Research Institute. "They're pretty docile owner groups.
After all, they bought the idea that its normal maintenance to
automatically replace water pumps at 75,000 miles.
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"Joseph Camel?" Joe Camel? R-i-i-g-ht.

[snip]

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Bonehenge · Mar 19, 2006

FWIW, My 2005 Tacoma has the same 236 HP V6 as the 2006. My 2005 was
advertised as 250 HP.

Who cares? What am I going to do buy a Colorado? That would be
biting off my nose to spite my face! <G> My Tacoma is an outstanding
truck, and I can't tell 236 from 250 when driving. My penis is long
enough where I don't need a decal stating HP on the side of the truck.

FWIW, Nissan still dosen't comply with the standard.

Bonehenge · Mar 19, 2006

FWIW, My 2005 Tacoma has the same 236 HP V6 as the 2006. My 2005 was
advertised as 250 HP.

Who cares? What am I going to do buy a Colorado? That would be
biting off my nose to spite my face! <G> My Tacoma is an outstanding
truck, and I can't tell 236 from 250 when driving. My penis is long
enough where I don't need a decal stating HP on the side of the truck.

FWIW, Nissan still dosen't comply with the standard.

Bonehenge · Mar 19, 2006

FWIW, My 2005 Tacoma has the same 236 HP V6 as the 2006. My 2005 was
advertised as 250 HP.
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Sorry, it was advertised as 245.

See what I mean? Who cares? I don't even know exactly how may
horsepower my vehicle is! <G>

Bonehenge · Mar 19, 2006

FWIW, My 2005 Tacoma has the same 236 HP V6 as the 2006. My 2005 was
advertised as 250 HP.
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Sorry, it was advertised as 245.

See what I mean? Who cares? I don't even know exactly how may
horsepower my vehicle is! <G>

Elmo P. Shagnasty · Mar 20, 2006

After being caught redhanded overstating horsepower,
Hyundai paid cash compensation to over 800,000 owners. "Honda
and Toyota owners aren't like that", said Joseph Camel of the
Brand Research Institute. "They're pretty docile owner groups.
After all, they bought the idea that its normal maintenance to
automatically replace water pumps at 75,000 miles.
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"Joseph Camel?" Joe Camel? R-i-i-g-ht.[/QUOTE]

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