Horsepower cuts embarass Asians

I can comment on that, since I had my F350 SD diesel work truck on a snowy
mountain road yesterday. This is my first year with a diesel, and I can tell
you it is a lot better suited to snowy hills than a gasser is - as long as I
keep it from spinning the turbo up. The gasser had to be kept revved high
enough that it wouldn't get carried away when traction got light, and that
made the gears effectively higher. The diesel doggedly keeps turning at
pretty much the same speed - giving or gaining rpms grudgingly.

Having pushed 4X4s through snow as much as a foot deep (with some help from
a shovel) on truly primitive roads from time to time, I can assure you it
has nothing at all to do with engine weight. The truck body has so much
weight it makes no difference whether the engine is a small block or a 6L
diesel.

Mike

 

I can comment on that, since I had my F350 SD diesel work truck on a snowy
mountain road yesterday. This is my first year with a diesel, and I can tell
you it is a lot better suited to snowy hills than a gasser is - as long as I
keep it from spinning the turbo up. The gasser had to be kept revved high
enough that it wouldn't get carried away when traction got light, and that
made the gears effectively higher. The diesel doggedly keeps turning at
pretty much the same speed - giving or gaining rpms grudgingly.

Having pushed 4X4s through snow as much as a foot deep (with some help from
a shovel) on truly primitive roads from time to time, I can assure you it
has nothing at all to do with engine weight. The truck body has so much
weight it makes no difference whether the engine is a small block or a 6L
diesel.

Mike

 

that's what my friend thought. he had 5 digits of upgrades into that thing.

you need more than that - you need a good independent rear and decent
geometry. my tires are only continental "touring" 185/60-14's. my
shocks are only kyb gr2's.

you haven't /driven/ a civic when you say "should".

 

that's what my friend thought. he had 5 digits of upgrades into that thing.

you need more than that - you need a good independent rear and decent
geometry. my tires are only continental "touring" 185/60-14's. my
shocks are only kyb gr2's.

you haven't /driven/ a civic when you say "should".

 

*how* many HP per ton?

I don't get any where near the numbers they do, even without putting a
driver in the car. In fact, with me in it, it's no better than the
Lambo they compare it with.

Andy

 

*how* many HP per ton?

I don't get any where near the numbers they do, even without putting a
driver in the car. In fact, with me in it, it's no better than the
Lambo they compare it with.

Andy

 

I almost believed all of these arguments were for real-- and not a
parody of some "buy american" nimrod..

The "reprogramming by advertising" bit snapped me out of it, though.

No one could be that stupid.

 

I almost believed all of these arguments were for real-- and not a
parody of some "buy american" nimrod..

The "reprogramming by advertising" bit snapped me out of it, though.

No one could be that stupid.

 

The Comet I had was a 61. I had a 64 Rambler that I was quite fond of as
well, as the front seat folded down to the back seat....
My favorite car growing up was a 66 Ford Fairlane 500 Wagon. When the 289
died, I threw in a 351 Cleveland.....(with great difficulty, I might
add....)

 

The Comet I had was a 61. I had a 64 Rambler that I was quite fond of as
well, as the front seat folded down to the back seat....
My favorite car growing up was a 66 Ford Fairlane 500 Wagon. When the 289
died, I threw in a 351 Cleveland.....(with great difficulty, I might
add....)

 

The fallacy of "More's Law", i.e., "if a little's good, more's better".

 

The fallacy of "More's Law", i.e., "if a little's good, more's better".

 

You bet, Detroit could crank out a "standard" V8 for about $150 and no
one wanted to rock that cash cow. Of course, by the late 70's they were
crying in their beer and begging the feds for protection from the yellow
menace.

 

You bet, Detroit could crank out a "standard" V8 for about $150 and no
one wanted to rock that cash cow. Of course, by the late 70's they were
crying in their beer and begging the feds for protection from the yellow
menace.

 

"The best American sports car' is like saying "the healthiest bacon
cheeseburger"

 

"The best American sports car' is like saying "the healthiest bacon
cheeseburger"

 

It's always amusing to think about how the "buy-American" type deludes
himself into thinking a Vette or a Viper are better than Euro or
Japanese sports cars because "our cars are faster"..

Ignorance & simple-mindedness-- it's what makes conservatism and NASCAR
so goddam popular in this country.

 

It's always amusing to think about how the "buy-American" type deludes
himself into thinking a Vette or a Viper are better than Euro or
Japanese sports cars because "our cars are faster"..

Ignorance & simple-mindedness-- it's what makes conservatism and NASCAR
so goddam popular in this country.

 

Hmm... I don't see this at all, I see as few Vettes and Vipers on
the quarter mile track on Friday night as I see exotic European
or Japanese sports cars. A brand new Domestic "sports car"
is as bad as a brand new Eurpoean "sports car" they are so
expensive the buyers are scared to death of damaging them,
so they never see a Real Man's racetrack.

I won't argue that - of course, I assume you don't think that anyone
in this forum actually deludes themselves that what is run on the
NASCAR circuit is in any way shape or form even remotely related
to a "stock car"

NASCAR should have renamed themselves NATCAR years ago.

(National Association of Toy Car Racers)

Ted

 

Hmm... I don't see this at all, I see as few Vettes and Vipers on
the quarter mile track on Friday night as I see exotic European
or Japanese sports cars. A brand new Domestic "sports car"
is as bad as a brand new Eurpoean "sports car" they are so
expensive the buyers are scared to death of damaging them,
so they never see a Real Man's racetrack.

I won't argue that - of course, I assume you don't think that anyone
in this forum actually deludes themselves that what is run on the
NASCAR circuit is in any way shape or form even remotely related
to a "stock car"

NASCAR should have renamed themselves NATCAR years ago.

(National Association of Toy Car Racers)

Ted