How do I care for my car's exterior?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by JS, Feb 12, 2007.

  1. JS

    JS Guest

    Just bought a new Civic LX and want to take good care of its paint
    job.

    Problem is, I live in an apartment and don't have any place to take it
    to wash it by hand with a bucket and hose like I used to when I lived
    in a house. Nor do I know anyone who has a house where I can take it
    to wash and wax it.

    So I am left with taking it to a self wash place or a drive through
    place. The one drive through place I have used in the past with my old
    car seems relatively gentle, it doesnt' have the big brushes, just
    long mop-like things that hang down, it is assisted by hand-washing
    guys, and then a big dryer then the rest is dried and detailed by
    hand.

    So those are really my two choices. I could take it and wash it myself
    with the soap wand and rinse wand, or take it to the drive through
    partial machine/ partial hand place.

    What's the opinion?

    I was thinking that if I hand wax it, with a good wax (which one??)
    then the methods of wash probably won't be that destructive. (??)
     
    JS, Feb 12, 2007
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    Joe LaVigne Guest

    In the winter, I take my car to the local Delta Sonic, which is similar to
    the drive-through place you are talking about. No spinning brushes. The
    point in the winter, around here, is to take off the road salt, ice and
    sludge.

    In the summer, I hand wash it every week or two, and put on a good coat of
    wax at the beginning and end of the season.

    As far as which wax is a good one, opinions will vary widely. For normal
    personal cars, your standard Turtle Wax, McGuires or Mother's will likely
    be fine. For show, there are much better products out there. I would
    just use the standard stuff if all you're trying to do is keep the water
    from pooling and the sun from destroying the finish...
     
    Joe LaVigne, Feb 12, 2007
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    Bucky Guest

    I would not let anyone/thing touch my new car: neither machine nor
    hand washing guys.
    I would go to the self-wash place. Only use wax that is pure carnauba
    wax. Do not use any "polish" waxes on a new car (they have abrasives).
    The reason is that you are only cleaning/waxing the clear coat, you
    are not cleaning/waxing actual paint.
     
    Bucky, Feb 12, 2007
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    Robert Barr Guest

    Especially if you have alloy wheels:

    At least once a month, get the bucket w/ soapy water & terry cloth, and
    get out there and scrub the brake dust from the wheels. Be sure to get
    any part of the wheel that is visible. (On my EX Civic, the inner band
    of the rim is finished & visible between the spokes, so I have to reach
    back in there & scrub). Then visit your car wash; that should be
    adequate to rinse the wheels.

    If you neglect this, the brake dust will permanently discolor your
    alloys and the car will never look as good.

    In the winter here in Chicago, I take advantage of any break in the
    weather, so I was able to scrub my wheels just before New Year's.
     
    Robert Barr, Feb 12, 2007
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  5. JS

    JS Guest

    Don't have alloy wheels.
    But I'm still torn between using a self-service wash which has those
    brushes which are sometimes dirty and don't look very soft, verses
    taking it to the "car wash" where they have those big mop like things,
    but no brushes, and finished by hand). Since I can't wash it at home
    with a bucket and hose (have no hose or faucet available for this),
    it's a tough choice. What a dilemma! With my old car, I just took it
    to the car wash.
     
    JS, Feb 15, 2007
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    Bucky Guest

    Just think about how many cars that big mop-like thing has cleaned.
    All the dirt, debris, bird poop, that's in there.
     
    Bucky, Feb 16, 2007
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    JS Guest

    Right, this is a minor albeit hard to resolve dilemma!
    Do I go with the brush at the car wash, which has been used on all
    that same gunk, or the mop at the car wash?
    The one thing I am thinking, though, is that I do see a lot more nice
    newer cars being cleaned at the car wash than at the self-service wash.
     
    JS, Feb 17, 2007
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    who Guest

    Take your own soft wash mitt and a brush for the wheels.
    Use Turtle (or equivalent) wax wash soap.
    Soak the car first to losen dirt, then wash lightly and hose off with a
    fine spray.
    Dry with a clean damp towel rubbing very lightly.
    Do windows with warm water and chamois.

    Don't wax clear coat, you'll scratch it.
    This has worked for me for years.
     
    who, Feb 18, 2007
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    Joe LaVigne Guest

    So, you decided to not read any part of his premise, and just post
    irrelevant information? I am sure he thanks you for the help...

    In case you were wondering, he cannot wash at home. No access to an
    outdoor water supply...

    And waxing clear coat is fine. AAMOF, it is recommended by Honda. Just
    don't POLISH clear-coat. Car polish has abrasives. Carnauba does not.
     
    Joe LaVigne, Feb 18, 2007
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    Bucky Guest

    Oh, I was thinking that if you went to the self-car wash, you would
    bring your own clean sponge. I would not use anyone else's mop/sponge/
    brush on my brand new car.
    I think that is irrelevant. IMO, the reason for that is that people
    with nice new cars are willing to pay more to have their car washed
    and waxed (and more frequently).
     
    Bucky, Feb 20, 2007
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    A. Nonimus Guest

    I think I have solved my dilemma. I took my old car to the automatic
    car wash and they just installed a brand new system. Basically it has
    no brushes or mops, it's just water to rinse it, then the guys hand
    wash it, then it is rinsed again, then the blower blow-dries it (more
    or less) then a guy finishes drying it, washes the windows and
    "details" it. It's a pretty gentle system of doing it, it seems. Maybe
    not as good as me doing it myself, but the next best thing. I just
    can't do it where I live. I could take a bucket to the self-service
    wash and do it there, and I still might do that, but that is a lot
    more hassle. I'll probably do one one time and one the next, or two
    and one, something like that.
     
    A. Nonimus, Mar 9, 2007
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    Mendel Leisk Guest

    Nothing beats washing your car yourself, because:

    It's your baby, you care about it. As you wash and dry it, you will
    find the scratches and deal with them. If you run it through and
    automated system, the system will not find this stuff. And If you hire
    someone to do it, they will do a lackluster job by comparison.

    You're the only person will go the extra distance, getting the brake
    dust out all the way to the corner of you mags, or whatever. You're
    the only person who's going to unscrew and pull off the mudflaps or
    pull out those plastic inner fender liners occasionally, to deal with
    what's lurking behind.

    See if you can work something out with someone you know, or even a
    coworker associate, to get the use of a driveway and a hose once in a
    while?
     
    Mendel Leisk, Mar 10, 2007
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  13. JS

    A. Nonimus Guest

    I'm sure I'll be roasted for saying this, but I've never been nor
    never will be one to unscrew mudflaps or pull out those plastic inner
    fender liners, etc... To me, that's a little "over the top" but that's
    just me; to each his own.

    I do agree with you, though, that no one will wash it or take care of
    it as well as I would, and I wish I did have a place to do it myself.
    I'll see what I can come up with, especially this summer, I might be
    able to find a way and place to do it.
     
    A. Nonimus, Mar 10, 2007
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    Mendel Leisk Guest

    With most cars we've had, I'll pull off those plastic fender liners
    once or twice in the car's "lifetime" with us, say every 4~5 years. An
    amazing amount of silt and debris can accumulate, and turn into a nice
    salty poltice in the spring. It depends on the design. The mud flaps I
    try to remove for each waxing. A very short screw driver or something
    similar you can rig-up will help, so you can accomplish the removal
    without having to take the wheels off.

    Take a look at older Hondas on the road: where they're rusting. The
    top edge of the rear wheel well is common, especially on the fuel cap
    side on which a lot of years have plastic liner over the gas tank
    filler/sensor tubes. The rust starts on the inside, behind the plastic
    liner.
     
    Mendel Leisk, Mar 10, 2007
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    Just Facts Guest

    What I've done for about 25 years is this:
    -hose it with a fine spray to soften the dirt. Also hose inside the
    wheel wells.
    -hand wash with a soft wash mitt, using a bucket of warm water
    containing a wash and wax soap, such as Turtle Wash & Wax.
    -Rinse it off with a light spray and chamois the windows.
    -Let it dry or for an occasional treat dry it lightly with a very clean
    soft towel.
    I keep my cars 10+ years and they still look great when I sell them.
    BTW I ski so occasionally drive in the worst winter conditions, of snow,
    salt and grit on the roads.
    Lastly if you drive on salted roads, don't park in a heated garage. Heat
    will accelerate corrosion.
     
    Just Facts, Mar 13, 2007
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