How full to keep the gas tank?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by slim, Jun 22, 2004.

  1. slim

    pars Guest

    I got 180,000km on my 1998 Civic Hatch. I normally fill up when there's only 7% to
    15% left in the tank. In several occasions, I've filled 44 litre (the tank can take
    45 litre capacity).

    In the summer, when the weather is hot, I usually try not to go under 7%.

    Pars
     
    pars, Jun 24, 2004
    #21
  2. slim

    SoCalMike Guest

    eh- better than some, worse than others. thanks to the internet, we can
    share problems and solutions like this. id rather have a common, fixable
    problem than an uncommon, hard to fix one.
     
    SoCalMike, Jun 24, 2004
    #22
  3. Despite all the above "calculations" it does happen that water gets into
    fuel - in gasoline, it has more to do with the hygroscopic nature of some
    of the gasoline components and aromatics are particularly prone. It
    happens less now in cars with the vapor control systems but it happens even
    in storage at the refinery, bulk plant and gas station... and refineries &
    bulk plants usually have floating roof tanks. In your car tank,
    temperature fluctuations can cause separation and once separated the water
    tends to stay separated, on the bottom of the tank.

    Where ethanol is added as an oxygenate, the problem is quite severe... to
    the extent that the refiners add it at the final load point when the
    road-car is being filled for delivery. It was found that blending in the
    ethanol to the product tanks at the refinery resulted in too high water
    content at the final delivery point. This was aggravated by the fact that
    all pipelines have some water in them which got picked up during the
    transfer.

    Since ethanol forms an azeotrope with water, any water separated out, which
    happens at >~0.6% water at normal ambient temps with a 10% ethanol/gasoline
    mixture, will pull the ethanol preferentially from the hydrocarbon
    components and since ethanol has a high octane number factor, 112(?), you
    can get quite significant effective octane reduction of the remaining
    hydrocarbon mixture.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Jun 25, 2004
    #23
  4. It depends on the conditions. If the car is being driven the fuel sloshes
    around quite a lot - quite an efficient method for increasing oxygen
    uptake.
    There's very little unsaturates, like olefins, in gasoline now, mainly due
    to emissions regulations. In fact gasoline forgetfully left in my
    lawnmower or snowblower for several months is in quite good condition now,
    compared with the results of a few years ago.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Jun 25, 2004
    #24
  5. If the car runs, there is fuel in the pump, it'll stay cool enough. Many
    cars have pumps outside the tank - they don't overheat.

    When you think you need gas because you might run out, get some.

    EFI cleaners (A good one, not CRC or Wynns or some other cheap gas-in-a-can)
    are good to run through periodically - they help soften any deposits which
    can build up, but the main thing is they emulsify with water in the tank so
    it can be burnt in the engine.Water in the system is bad :)

    Allan :)
     
    Allan Williams, Jun 25, 2004
    #25
  6. Whats more, many of the pumps are located at the top of the tank, and the
    pickup sits underneath it. The pump could be uncovered at only half a tank
    :) Look at a nissan skyline :)

    Allan :)
     
    Allan Williams, Jun 25, 2004
    #26
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