how many use synth oil?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dr Nick, Oct 25, 2006.

  1. Dr Nick

    Dr Nick Guest

    how many of your guys out there use synthetic oil in your cars? just
    curious, I'm thinking of switching to mobil 1 at my next change in my 06
    accord.
     
    Dr Nick, Oct 25, 2006
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    G-Man Guest

    I use Amsoil 5W-20. I change every 7500 miles. My '96 has 180k on it now.
    Sold a 2001 with 150k, and I had an oil analisys done before selling. They
    told me no signs of wear, pus the oil could have gone longer than 7500 !

    Mobil 1 is good to, but a BIG waste of money if you are going to dump it
    every 3k. Just use Dino oil.

    G-Man
     
    G-Man, Oct 25, 2006
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    kwatq Guest

    Mobil 1, if I can get the right grade. 5W20 no longer avilable where I
    live, so it's Castrol synthetic, as everyone who wants their wheels to
    last forever.
     
    kwatq, Oct 25, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    technically, i doubt /anyone/ here is using a true synthetic oil. most
    everything sold as "synthetic" here in the us is in fact a group III
    mineral oil, including mobil 1. don't get me wrong, m1 is a fine oil,
    but all this hoopla about "synthetic" is marketing semantics, not
    chemistry. true synthetics are specifically labeled as to what their
    base oil is. if the oil is not so labeled but still called "synthetic",
    it's a group III. the [mis]information you see on the interweb on this
    subject is quite extraordinary in its utter pervasiveness. i guess
    wishful thinking is easily cultivated with a little strategically placed
    bovine excrement.
     
    jim beam, Oct 25, 2006
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    John Horner Guest


    There is more speculation and misinformation on this subject than one
    can ever hope to sort out. No, Mobil-1 isn't using a Group III base
    oil. Yes, some other synthetics do. However, the bottom line is that
    the Group III vs. Group IV (PAO) base oil debate is pretty much over and
    it has been widely demonstrated that extraordinary good motor oils can
    be made with either one. Group III synthetics start with crude oil for
    the feedstock of the chemical transformation process. Group IV oils
    start out life as natural gas. Why some people get working into a
    lather about the distinction of starting with natural oil or starting
    with natural gas is a bit mysterious to me. That said, Mobil-1 still
    uses PAO as the base oil.

    I have yet to see any bottle of motor oil from any company which spells
    out the base oil and additive chemistry used.

    John
     
    John Horner, Oct 26, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    no, mobil 1 has only 5% pao. therefore, pao is /not/ the base, it's
    simply a [minority] additive.

    http://msds.ogden.disa.mil/msds/owa/web_msds.display?imsdsnr=194095

    there is indeed more speculation and misinformation on this subject than
    can be believed. mobil 1 may have been pao base at some point in
    history, but that's not the case today.
     
    jim beam, Oct 27, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    forgot:
    "I have yet to see any bottle of motor oil from any company which spells
    out the base oil and additive chemistry used."

    here are a couple of examples of products identifying the base:
    http://www.motul.fr/motulbaseuk/gab_fiche2.asp
    http://redlineoil.com/pdf/4.pdf

    msds info often gives additive info, although it has to be said, msds
    filings are woefully inadequate, incomplete, inaccurate and untimely in
    this arena.
     
    jim beam, Oct 27, 2006
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  8. jim beam wrote:

    Well, doesn't that just suck!
     
    Greg Campbell, Oct 27, 2006
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    dsguy Guest



    The transmission company that I work for is switching exclusively to
    Mobile 1. It's a somewhat large company, and Mobile 1 is actually going
    to start packaging it in gallon containers just for us. The guys in the
    tech dept. claim it's the best tranny fluit out there. As a matter of
    fact, we're going to start recommending trans fluid changes every 5
    years instead of every year because of it.
     
    dsguy, Oct 28, 2006
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