How much gearbox oils is necessary?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jim, Sep 30, 2003.

  1. Jim

    Jim Guest

    Vehicle - 1994 Civic 5 Speed Manual

    When changing the gearbox oil, the Honda owners manual indicates that 2
    litres of gear box oil is necessary. However, to pour 2 litres of MTF into
    the gearbox is virtually impossible unless you raise the vehicle in a manner
    that forces the filler hole to be in the highest possible position. As soon
    as the vehicle is lowered on a level ground, the fluid immediately begins to
    spill out.

    In addition, I made sure to that the old fluid was drained for over an hour
    with the car raised so that the drain bolt was in the lowest possible
    position.

    If I go by the manual and fill the gearbox with MTF to the brim of the
    filler hole, about 1.6 litres is all that is necessary.

    Does anyone know what the correct amount is?
     
    Jim, Sep 30, 2003
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  2. Jim

    Guest Guest

    The manual may be correct. However, that doesn't mean you can drain all 2L
    out. About 0.4 L remains trapped inside. Don't worry about it.
     
    Guest, Sep 30, 2003
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  3. Jim

    Tegger® Guest



    The 2 liter amount may be a dry-fill quantity, or maybe you're reading the
    US qt. amount.

    Correct procedure is:
    1) Make sure the car is level (IMPORTANT!)
    2) Pull the drain plug until oil stops running out (a minute or so)
    3) Fill thru the filler hole until it runs out of the filler hole
    4) Put plug back.

    Entire thing shouldn't take more than 15 minutes, depending how long it
    takes you to pump the new fluid back in.

    Since I do my work on a sloping driveway, I use a carpenter's level to
    level off the car.
     
    Tegger®, Sep 30, 2003
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  4. Jim

    Jim Guest

    Is it possible to drain most of the oil out of the gearbox without stripping
    the gearbox by raising the vehicle in a certain manner?
     
    Jim, Sep 30, 2003
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  5. Jim

    Jim Guest


    Yes, the 2 litre is a dry fill amount. Is there any danger in filling the
    gearbox with 2 litres even though it is not a dry fill?
     
    Jim, Sep 30, 2003
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  6. Jim

    redeyedevil Guest

    Why do you insist on filling the full 2 L even after the answer to the
    contrary? Unless you have done so already.
     
    redeyedevil, Sep 30, 2003
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  7. Jim

    Mista Bone Guest

    2.0 quarts for a dry fill, 1.8 quarts when doing normal service.

    --
    Charles Tague
    93 Honda Civic DX HB
    1.6L SOHC VTEC 14.85 @ 89 mph,1.98 60 ft.
    With ZEX 85 hp ZEX 13.09 @ 103 mph, 1.81 60ft.
    86 Pontiac Trans Am
    225/50/15 GForce Drag Radials
    305 peanut cammed 15.29 @ 88 mph
    http://home.cinci.rr.com/mistab0ne/
     
    Mista Bone, Sep 30, 2003
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  8. Jim

    Tegger® Guest



    Mista Bone will have to answer the "danger" thing.

    Dry fill is the amount to be added after a rebuild, when there is nothing
    between the gears or trapped inside the synchros and bearings, nothing
    coating the inside of the case, etc.

    Fact is, the manual says 1.6L, not 2.0L. In any case, the amount is not
    important. The LEVEL is. Fill it as specified until it runs out the hole,
    then put the plug back. You're done and can stop worrying.

    I never measure. I just pump it in until full. So I have NO idea how much
    my Integra's tranny takes since it's been so long since I looked it up.
     
    Tegger®, Sep 30, 2003
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  9. Jim

    Tegger® Guest



    No. Some of the oil will always stick to the interior surfaces. On a cold
    day, more will stick, on a hot day, less will stick. That's why you have to
    go by the level, not the amount.


    Change the fluid once a year and it will always be mostly fresh.
     
    Tegger®, Sep 30, 2003
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