How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?

Ask Geico what exactly the contract says about using OEM
body parts. Because as you continue to insist none of this
was your fault, I can only think you are also rationalizing
what Geico should give you vs. what the contract /you
signed/ says it should give you.

Start flames. Then post the contract terms and take
responsibility for agreeing to them.

 

Ask Geico what exactly the contract says about using OEM
body parts. Because as you continue to insist none of this
was your fault, I can only think you are also rationalizing
what Geico should give you vs. what the contract /you
signed/ says it should give you.

Start flames. Then post the contract terms and take
responsibility for agreeing to them.

 

Seems like you could sue the pet's owner in small claims court for allowing
their pet to run loose and causing damage to your property.
Many locales have leash laws.

You would need proof like a photo of the killed pet and it's dog tags,the
paperwork from the body shop,etc.;the more evidence,the better chances of
success. Probably too late for all that,though.

your monetary award would be limited bacause your insurance is paying all
but the deductible.(it's fraud to claim more than what you actually paid)
That might make it not worth the trouble,then again,if the deductible is
$500 or $1000,then it's possibly worthwhile.

I'm not a lawyer.

 

Plus proof of being sober; driving within the speed limit;
driving on the road and not off it; not having a grudge
against the pet's owner; not having poisoned said pet and
thrown it against the car to get a new bumper when the old
one had a little scratch; etc. I encourage the pet's owner
to countersue at this point, because the OP looks like
sharkbait to me.

Why are you encouraging this guy in his whine about the
inevitable "stuff happens"? Cars get damaged. You can try to
milk the insurance cos. for more than what the contract
provides, and so push up rates for all, or you can read the
contract BEFORE signing.

Just supportive of their trade.

 

Well, this was a wild animal that came out of the woods. It is dead of
course and I can't sue it or anyone.

 

I assume that I can because I had a windshield replaced and they approved a
Honda glass. I did ask the Geico man about OEM and he said yes. If he did
not, I would have raised hell.

 

I assume that I can because I had a windshield replaced and they approved a
Honda glass. I did ask the Geico man about OEM and he said yes. If he did
not, I would have raised hell.

 

A bumper too might not be enough of a savings to justify the inevitable
increase in insurance premiums that will occur. He says "I recently had an
animal run into my car" but it's hard to conceive of any animal doing much
damage to the bumper of a car that isn't moving. Whether it's "your fault"
or not, insurance companies have actuarial tables, that say that people who
get in accidents, get in more accidents.

Earle

 

A bumper too might not be enough of a savings to justify the inevitable
increase in insurance premiums that will occur. He says "I recently had an
animal run into my car" but it's hard to conceive of any animal doing much
damage to the bumper of a car that isn't moving. Whether it's "your fault"
or not, insurance companies have actuarial tables, that say that people who
get in accidents, get in more accidents.

Earle

 

What you got was a used OEM, a perfectly acceptable choice.

 

Depends on the age of the car, too. Many insurance companies have a policy
of using OEM until the car is three years old.

Also I understand some states mandate the use of OEM parts on insurance
replacements, no matter what.

 

Depends on the age of the car, too. Many insurance companies have a policy
of using OEM until the car is three years old.

Also I understand some states mandate the use of OEM parts on insurance
replacements, no matter what.

 

I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper. I took
my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is Geico. I made
sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was able to get an OEM on
my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I want to make sure that the
car stays with original parts unless of course "I" happen to actually cause
damage due to my neglegnece. SO far, things just happen to this car that is
beyond my control.

Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as original
OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

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For what its worth, I've been told that after market body parts are not made
to exactly match the OEM parts by design. Something about patents and such.
My brother fixes cars at a body shop and tells me that quite often when
working with non-oem parts he needs to modify them to make them fit. (cut
off a bit here and there, drill extra holes, bend something, etc...) He
agrees with another poster saying that used oem is preferable to after
market.

 

I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper. I took
my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is Geico. I made
sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was able to get an OEM on
my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I want to make sure that the
car stays with original parts unless of course "I" happen to actually cause
damage due to my neglegnece. SO far, things just happen to this car that is
beyond my control.

Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as original
OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

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For what its worth, I've been told that after market body parts are not made
to exactly match the OEM parts by design. Something about patents and such.
My brother fixes cars at a body shop and tells me that quite often when
working with non-oem parts he needs to modify them to make them fit. (cut
off a bit here and there, drill extra holes, bend something, etc...) He
agrees with another poster saying that used oem is preferable to after
market.

 

I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper. I took
my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is Geico. I made
sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was able to get an OEM on
my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I want to make sure that the
car stays with original parts unless of course "I" happen to actually cause
damage due to my neglegnece. SO far, things just happen to this car that is
beyond my control.

Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as original
OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

---

For what its worth, I've been told that after market body parts are not made
to exactly match the OEM parts by design. Something about patents and such.
My brother fixes cars at a body shop and tells me that quite often when
working with non-oem parts he needs to modify them to make them fit. (cut
off a bit here and there, drill extra holes, bend something, etc...) He
agrees with another poster saying that used oem is preferable to after
market.

 

I am sorry. "An animal waited and jumped into my MOVING car that was going
at east 60 mph." I hope that they do not raise my premium since I have a
clean driving record. This is only my second time utilizing their services.
The first was a windshield that cracked for no reason.

 

I am sorry. "An animal waited and jumped into my MOVING car that was going
at east 60 mph." I hope that they do not raise my premium since I have a
clean driving record. This is only my second time utilizing their services.
The first was a windshield that cracked for no reason.

 

Deepnds on the state one is in. IN New York we have a leash law. If my car
is damaged due to hitting a loose pet it is the owner of the pet that is at
fault. All I need to prove it is the dead animal and the damage. For the
pet owner to countersue in your above scenario, I DON'T have to prove I was
sober, grudged, etc... They have to prove it is true.

But if it is someone else's fault, why should one be out anything? I'm not
saying look for blame when there isn't any, but if there is blame, that's
the one who should pay.

No, just FAIR trade.

 

Nah, it's just that the aftermarket simply does not have the budget to
engineer the molds and dies the way Honda did. The appeal of aftermarket
direct-replacement is economy, not quality. They have to find ways of
making the parts cheaper than OEM, and that means cutting all the corners
they can.

Their materials are cheaper as well. Quality control is much laxer in the
aftermarket. They simply can't afford to throw away all the production that
the OEMs do.

The aftermarket does not have access to the OEM engineering CAD files and
blueprints, which are heavily guarded and protected. They have to get hold
of actual examples of the parts, then work backwards to obtain their own
specs. This is a terribly inaccurate way of engineering a part, especially
something as large and floppy as a bumper skin. And then they're only going
to spend so long welding up and grinding down the molds, since that takes
time and money, so...

I've been involved in the OEM process. The detailed engineering of OEM
parts is astoundingly expensive, exhaustingly intricate, and is only
justifiable in huge production quantities. Low-volume OEM parts are
developed the same way as high-volume OEM ones, but with a price that
reflects the small amortization base.

Remember, Honda made hundreds of thousands of bumpers. The aftermarket
makes a few thousand. Big, BIG difference.

 

Nah, it's just that the aftermarket simply does not have the budget to
engineer the molds and dies the way Honda did. The appeal of aftermarket
direct-replacement is economy, not quality. They have to find ways of
making the parts cheaper than OEM, and that means cutting all the corners
they can.

Their materials are cheaper as well. Quality control is much laxer in the
aftermarket. They simply can't afford to throw away all the production that
the OEMs do.

The aftermarket does not have access to the OEM engineering CAD files and
blueprints, which are heavily guarded and protected. They have to get hold
of actual examples of the parts, then work backwards to obtain their own
specs. This is a terribly inaccurate way of engineering a part, especially
something as large and floppy as a bumper skin. And then they're only going
to spend so long welding up and grinding down the molds, since that takes
time and money, so...

I've been involved in the OEM process. The detailed engineering of OEM
parts is astoundingly expensive, exhaustingly intricate, and is only
justifiable in huge production quantities. Low-volume OEM parts are
developed the same way as high-volume OEM ones, but with a price that
reflects the small amortization base.

Remember, Honda made hundreds of thousands of bumpers. The aftermarket
makes a few thousand. Big, BIG difference.