How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?

Nah, it's just that the aftermarket simply does not have the budget to
engineer the molds and dies the way Honda did. The appeal of aftermarket
direct-replacement is economy, not quality. They have to find ways of
making the parts cheaper than OEM, and that means cutting all the corners
they can.

Their materials are cheaper as well. Quality control is much laxer in the
aftermarket. They simply can't afford to throw away all the production that
the OEMs do.

The aftermarket does not have access to the OEM engineering CAD files and
blueprints, which are heavily guarded and protected. They have to get hold
of actual examples of the parts, then work backwards to obtain their own
specs. This is a terribly inaccurate way of engineering a part, especially
something as large and floppy as a bumper skin. And then they're only going
to spend so long welding up and grinding down the molds, since that takes
time and money, so...

I've been involved in the OEM process. The detailed engineering of OEM
parts is astoundingly expensive, exhaustingly intricate, and is only
justifiable in huge production quantities. Low-volume OEM parts are
developed the same way as high-volume OEM ones, but with a price that
reflects the small amortization base.

Remember, Honda made hundreds of thousands of bumpers. The aftermarket
makes a few thousand. Big, BIG difference.

 

Windshields are different. They just break, for no apparent reason. But
what insurance companies don't like, are claims. If you want to keep your
premiums down, pay for small repairs yourself. Or if you are a good driver,
save your pennies with a high deductible or no collision insurance at all
and you will eventually have enough to buy a new car. On a 2005 model the
bank probably made you get insurance, but most companies have a $1,000
deductible available.

Cheers,

Earle

 

Windshields are different. They just break, for no apparent reason. But
what insurance companies don't like, are claims. If you want to keep your
premiums down, pay for small repairs yourself. Or if you are a good driver,
save your pennies with a high deductible or no collision insurance at all
and you will eventually have enough to buy a new car. On a 2005 model the
bank probably made you get insurance, but most companies have a $1,000
deductible available.

Cheers,

Earle

 

Wrong;you do NOT have to prove you are innocent or not at fault.

Suing in small claims court does NOT affect auto insurance rates.

No,PET OWNERS need to be responsible for their pets,and that includes when
they are allowed to run loose and cause damage to other people's property.
Then they should pay for what their animal has caused.

In any case,the JUDGE would decide if the suit was worthy.

 

Actually,some other company probably makes the bumpers FOR Honda under
contract.
Honda buys lots of parts from local sources.Cats,exhaust parts,sensors,...
that's how they keep the US domestic content high enough to qualify as US-
made.

No reason why they can't make extra bumpers and sell them thru their own
distribution networks.

 

Actually,some other company probably makes the bumpers FOR Honda under
contract.
Honda buys lots of parts from local sources.Cats,exhaust parts,sensors,...
that's how they keep the US domestic content high enough to qualify as US-
made.

No reason why they can't make extra bumpers and sell them thru their own
distribution networks.

 

Actually,some other company probably makes the bumpers FOR Honda under
contract.
Honda buys lots of parts from local sources.Cats,exhaust parts,sensors,...
that's how they keep the US domestic content high enough to qualify as US-
made.

No reason why they can't make extra bumpers and sell them thru their own
distribution networks.

 

These days,fixed auto glass is GLUED in to add structural strength to the
body,and if the body flexes,the glass can crack or shatter.

Formerly,windshields used to "float" in a rubber gasket.

 

These days,fixed auto glass is GLUED in to add structural strength to the
body,and if the body flexes,the glass can crack or shatter.

Formerly,windshields used to "float" in a rubber gasket.

 

Of course. But that's irrelevant. The working drawings come from Honda,

The point is that Honda has the budget to develop the thing properly in the
first place, and has the clout to demand extremely high standards. The
aftermarket has none of that.


They may not be allowed to. Honda paid for the development, remember?

 

Of course. But that's irrelevant. The working drawings come from Honda,

The point is that Honda has the budget to develop the thing properly in the
first place, and has the clout to demand extremely high standards. The
aftermarket has none of that.


They may not be allowed to. Honda paid for the development, remember?

 

Of course. But that's irrelevant. The working drawings come from Honda,

The point is that Honda has the budget to develop the thing properly in the
first place, and has the clout to demand extremely high standards. The
aftermarket has none of that.


They may not be allowed to. Honda paid for the development, remember?

 

With modern CAD/CAM technology,they can take a bumper off a car,measure it
and turn out detailed specs for manufacturing molds to make their own.They
can buy the raw plastic from the same supplier the OEM company uses.

For metal parts,the materials may be of lesser quality,a cheaper alloy,or
not as thick a galvanized coating,or maybe no coating at all.

 

My experience with aftermarket body parts is that they are grossly
approximate in dimensions and usually fit poorly. This can only mean either
poor quality or bad dimensioning, or both.

You cannot properly measure a made bumper and make a tool exactly the same
as the original. You do not exactly know the shrink factor.

They can, but do they? Again, my experience is that if they do, they're
buying a substandard grade or something, because toughness, flexibility and
stability are usually not the same as OEM.

And bad dimensioning. Last aftermarket bumper rebar I looked at was bowed
down in the middle. The thing was brand-new, so there was no excuse for
that.

 

Ok. This is the part number for the bumper (front): 04711-SDA-A90zz
($259.80). It appears to be the same. I even compared it to other cars on
the lot with the same color as mine. I also noticed that the right side
that meets the headlight has a little gap along the bottom. The bumper
seems to be a perfect fit otherwise. I have also noticed this same affect
on other cars - on the same side...

 

The number appears to be a valid Honda part number.

Tong Yang Plastics in Taiwan is listed in my searches as the OEM supplier
to Honda for that part number. But if your car was made in North America,
then likely the bumper was made by a North American supplier intead.

 

I recently purchased a 2007 CRV ( 2.4 L Petrol engine). So far so good. Very well made car
however I am getting ridiculously high fuel consumption figures. On average in City/Urban
driving I'm averaging 17.5L per 100km or 13.4 mpg. This is what you would expect from a truck
not a brand new Honda. The worst consumption I could find on web reviews was 19.6mpg
which is a far cry from what I'm getting. Am I missing something?

The car hasn't had it's first run-in service yet. I'm currently using RON 95.

 

My 2005 gets 17 mpg on a good day city, they will tell you break in etc...
but my experience is the CRV is OVERstating the fuel MPG. best on highway I
get is 23 MPG...Yes I know what some will say driving habits etc...I know...
Not happy with the MPG Period,...
I am sure yours will improve as it breaks in but not that much...If you find
the reason send me an email as I have brought mine to dealer twice and all
they say is all OK....

 

I'll keep you posted but no way are they getting away with 13 mpg.

 

2-wheel drive or 4WD/AWD?

Why hi-test? Doesn't the CRV call for 86-87 octane?
You're wasting money using a higher octane than specified.


check tire pressures.