how to tell if car is burning oil

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by rynniki, Mar 27, 2005.

  1. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    hey guys I am back with another question. How can I tell if my car is
    burning oil? I am very narotic about my car lol. its the only car we have
    that works and i cant afford for anymore repairs.
     
    rynniki, Mar 27, 2005
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    Remco Guest

    You could put some cardboard or newspaper under the car when you park
    it in your driveway and see if it drips. If it doesn't drip, yet you
    are losing oil, you are burining it.

    If it is indeed burning oil, it could be your PVC valve and that is a
    very inexpensive replacement and easily replaced part, if you do it
    yourself.

    If it is leaking, it could be a seal somwhere and those can be trickier
    to find because oil tends to travel.

    I'd consider how much oil is lost. If you have to add some once it a
    while, it can be lived with and is not a big deal. Just make sure you
    never let it run low.

    Remco
     
    Remco, Mar 27, 2005
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  3. rynniki

    remco Guest

    PCV valve, that is.(slip of the finger)
     
    remco, Mar 27, 2005
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  4. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    thanks alot, i am sitting here thinking i havent seen any on the ground i
    just got the oil changed when i had the other work done,the guy who
    changed my oil got it everywhere,its on the fan and the fan casing, i
    yelled at him. ichecked my dipstick and it was above the second dot.also
    is it normal to have condensation in the muffler, we have a after market
    exhaust on i dont know what kind it is. and also do honda engines have a
    tendancy to be noisy???? sorry for all the questions
     
    rynniki, Mar 27, 2005
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    Jason Guest

    After you replace the PCV valve--do this about once a day or once a week
    to see if your car is burning or leaking oil.

    When the engine is cold and the vehicle is on level ground--check the oil.
    Write down on a sheet of paper the results.

    After about a month--you should be able to determine how much oil your
    Honda is burning or leaking. Also--check under the car before or after you
    check the oil to determine if you see a pool of oil. If you do--use a
    flashlite to attempt to determine where it is learking from.

    Report to us after a month and tell us the results.
     
    Jason, Mar 27, 2005
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  6. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    Should I see if I am burning oil before I change the PVC? I think I am
    fine.
     
    rynniki, Mar 27, 2005
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    Eric Guest

    What model and year car is this (perhaps I missed that info in a prior
    post)? If the PVC valve is easily accessible, then I would remove it and
    shake it. If it rattles then it's probably ok but, even so, if you haven't
    replaced it in a while (the service interval is 60K miles) then go ahead and
    replace it. If it doesn't rattle and you don't want to get a new one just
    yet, then you can usually clean them out with some carburetor cleaner spray.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Mar 27, 2005
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  8. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    it is a 1994 civic dx,we bought it used from someone we know,i dont know if
    the pvc has beem changed,did you read my other questions too
     
    rynniki, Mar 27, 2005
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  9. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    it is a 1994 civic dx,we bought it used from someone we know,i dont know if
    the pvc has beem changed,did you read my other questions too
     
    rynniki, Mar 27, 2005
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  10. You check the oil. Is the level getting lower as you drive the car?

    If so, then you check for leaks. Do you see any signs of oil leaks
    underneath?

    If so, you probably have a leak. If not, you should check the exhaust.
    Do you see blue smoke, especially at startup?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Mar 27, 2005
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  11. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    i dont see nay leaks or blue smoke,i am just being paranoid
     
    rynniki, Mar 27, 2005
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    L Alpert Guest

    Check oil every fill up of gas. The cardboard idea is good to see if it
    leaks instead of burning it. If no leaks and you need to refill the oil,
    it's got to go somewhere.....(also look under the hood for crud buildup,
    especially around the valve cover gaskets).
     
    L Alpert, Mar 27, 2005
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    Remco Guest

    Check the service interval for the PCV valve.

    Based on your question, I was under the impression you were burning
    oil. If you check oil and there's no indication of you losing any,
    don't be overly paranoid with how to tell if your car is burning oil. A
    good check regiment is every other gas up.
     
    Remco, Mar 27, 2005
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    rynniki Guest

    ok we just got back from seeing family and i looked under the hood there
    was some oil on a piece of black plastic under the fan, and the piece of
    metal where the dipstick goes in whatever that is was steaming like there
    was oil on it. what is that piece of metal,i checked my oil and it is fine
    before we left to see family and when we came home. it is only a half hour
    trip up and half hour back... thanks for all your help,it is a 94 civic dx
    if you need to know so you can tell me what that piece is...
     
    rynniki, Mar 27, 2005
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    Remco Guest

    That piece of metal is most likely a heatshield or engine tin. That
    you see oil on something near the radiator is probably because of
    sloppyness of whomever changed your oil.
    If your oil level is not dropping while you have been driving it, it is
    just left over from that service. It is all over part of the engine and
    it gets hot so it burns when hot. It will take a while before that
    burning disappears. It looks bad, but it doesn't hurt anything. Just go
    elsewhere for oil changes.

    Check your oil frequently and if you don't lose any, sleep well and
    don't worry about it.
     
    Remco, Mar 28, 2005
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  16. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    Thanks so much
     
    rynniki, Mar 28, 2005
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  17. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    its all rusty can i buy a new one somewhere
     
    rynniki, Mar 28, 2005
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    Remco Guest

    You could, but it won't be worth it because a new one will rust as well
    because this shield gets quite hot. One could paint it with a special
    paint to protect it, but that really is not needed -- there are many
    civics/integras on the road with rust on the engine tins and their
    performance is not affected.
    That smoke you see must be from that sloppy oil change and will
    eventually burn off.

    Just make sure your car runs cool and your oil is at the proper level
    -- check it frequently. Change the oil every 3-4K miles, don't "dog"
    the car and your car's engine should last a long time.
    One thing with civics: be sure to change the timing belt when it needs
    to be changed (at 90K miles, I think), because a breaking belt can
    wreck the engine and it will not give you any fair warning.

    Perhaps see if your local high school or tech college offers classes on
    basic car maintenance and basic repairs -- I think this is a must for
    anyone that owns an older car or intends to hold onto a car.
    Besides properly maintaining a car, it will also teach you what can go
    wrong with a car and also help you not get ripped off when you go to a
    mechanic.

    Remco
     
    Remco, Mar 28, 2005
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  19. If the valve stem seals are worn out or just old: sometimes blue smoke on
    startup, but the best test is under hard acceleration. If you get blue /
    black smoke, its the seals.

    If the oil rings are worn out (about 180,000+ km), the engine will smoke
    after a about 5 minutes of idle. Good test is what happens idling in peak
    hour traffic. If theres a cloud od blue smoke when you finally get moving,
    its the rings.

    If the engine has done 200,000+ you likely need both.

    Stewart DIBBS
     
    Stewart DIBBS, Mar 28, 2005
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    Eric Guest

    How many miles are on this car? Did you get a copy of the service records
    when you purchased it? If not, then since you purchased the car from
    someone you know they might be able to give these to you so you'll know
    what's been done to it over the years.

    By the way, here's a link to a diagram that shows the general location of
    the PCV valve on a '94 Civic, http://tinyurl.com/5bqve, the PCV valve is
    item #6 in the diagram. If you're interested, you can get a copy of the
    factory service manual from http://www.helminc.com. These manuals are a
    highly detailed source of information for your car.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Mar 29, 2005
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