Hybrids - Toyota vs Honda

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Steve, Nov 4, 2005.

  1. Steve

    dh Guest

    Yes, you are offering opinions. Lame, unsubstantiated opinions.
    Then it should be very easy for you to provide references and sources.
    Others do so.
    If this is so, it should be very easy for you to name these vehicles. The
    Cobalt comes to mind. Any others?
    If it exists and you know if it, it should be trivially easy for you to name
    it. Do so.
    Yes, you'd better do some research. Surprise us with a fact or two.
     
    dh, Nov 16, 2005
  2. Steve

    dh Guest

    Ya know, if just one guy tells you to go away, maybe it's just him and his
    reaction to you. If everybody's telling you to go away... ya might just get
    a clue...

    Well, you wouldn't.
     
    dh, Nov 16, 2005
  3. Steve

    John Horner Guest

    In full throttle situations the CVT should be tunned to hold the engine
    at the peak power output point, not the peak torque point.

    John
     
    John Horner, Nov 16, 2005
  4. Steve

    st-bum Guest

    I've noticed that with the same "small" car Toyotas seem to get about
    20% better gas mileage.

    The Corolla gets 40mpg and Chevy Cobalt, which has a bigger engine but
    the same power output gets about 20% less.

    Why is that? Is GM just that far behind technology wise? Is that why
    their stock price is at 20 year lows and they lose money every quarter?
     
    st-bum, Nov 16, 2005
  5. Steve

    flobert Guest

    Tuning.

    American cars/engines are tuned to bias their torque lower down the
    rev range. Makes it more compatable with the ubiquitus slush-box
    americans love. Result is the calculated peak power is the same,
    although its a bigger engine, ANd a more inefficient engine results.
     
    flobert, Nov 16, 2005
  6. Steve

    Mike Hunter Guest

    Your bias is showing, again. ;)

    mike


     
    Mike Hunter, Nov 16, 2005
  7. Steve

    Mike Hunter Guest

    I don't do homework for my own grandchildren what make you think I would do
    yours? Research the EPA fuel economy guide for the facts on fuel mileage.
    Search the bible of the auto industry, automtivenews.com, for sales figures.

    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Nov 16, 2005
  8. Of course, the Toyota hybrid system has a variation without the rubber band.
    Nothing shifts, nothing engages or disengages. The engine doesn't even
    exclusively provide torque to the wheels, but provides power to the hybrid
    system.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Nov 16, 2005
  9. Steve

    dh Guest

    This isn't OUR homework, this is YOUR homework. Got facts for your lame
    opinions? Then post them.

    I've taken the time to provide comparisons. Don't like my comparisons?
    Refute them with facts of your own.
     
    dh, Nov 17, 2005
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