I broke off my Oxygen sensor

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Danny Beardsley, Dec 31, 2005.

  1. In the process of trying to replace my O2 (Oxygen) sensor on my 1993
    honda civic EX, I broke the old one off. I tried some usual stuff,
    knocking it with a hammer, liberal WD-40, running the car for a bit to
    heat up the manifold. Anyway, TINK! it broke. Any suggestions?

    Two pictures of the sensor and manifold
    http://img416.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaustmanifold7eh.jpg
    http://img416.imageshack.us/my.php?image=o2sensor9it.jpg
     
    Danny Beardsley, Dec 31, 2005
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  2. Danny Beardsley

    Nate Nagel Guest

    First of all, WD-40 is not a penetrating oil, claims to the contrary by
    the manufacturer and thousands of users notwithstanding. It's a little
    late now, but really, you should have used Kroil, PB Blaster, or one of
    the other purpose-made penetrating oils rather than WD-40. Guess you
    will remember that next time :/

    Now as to your immediate situation - that sucker is broken off in a very
    difficult way. I would personally suggest, if you have access, dropping
    the downpipe so the bottom of the manifold is open, and then trying to
    drill it out with successively larger drill bits. If you are lucky the
    drill bit will "catch" and spin the remaining piece out into the
    manifold (this is why I suggested dropping the downpipe.) If you are
    less than lucky, you'll end up drilling it out to the threads, in which
    case a spark plug thread chaser tap should clean them up.

    You may find it easier to remove the manifold from the car; I haven't
    ever worked on a Honda so I don't know how difficult access is vs.
    manifold removal.

    Needless to say, put some anti-seize on the threads of the new O2
    sensor, and next time you go to replace one, before you get to the point
    of breakage, try heating the manifold around the sensor with a torch,
    pref. oxyacetylene if you have access to one.

    good luck,

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Dec 31, 2005
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  3. Danny Beardsley

    Nate Nagel Guest

    First of all, WD-40 is not a penetrating oil, claims to the contrary by
    the manufacturer and thousands of users notwithstanding. It's a little
    late now, but really, you should have used Kroil, PB Blaster, or one of
    the other purpose-made penetrating oils rather than WD-40. Guess you
    will remember that next time :/

    Now as to your immediate situation - that sucker is broken off in a very
    difficult way. I would personally suggest, if you have access, dropping
    the downpipe so the bottom of the manifold is open, and then trying to
    drill it out with successively larger drill bits. If you are lucky the
    drill bit will "catch" and spin the remaining piece out into the
    manifold (this is why I suggested dropping the downpipe.) If you are
    less than lucky, you'll end up drilling it out to the threads, in which
    case a spark plug thread chaser tap should clean them up.

    You may find it easier to remove the manifold from the car; I haven't
    ever worked on a Honda so I don't know how difficult access is vs.
    manifold removal.

    Needless to say, put some anti-seize on the threads of the new O2
    sensor, and next time you go to replace one, before you get to the point
    of breakage, try heating the manifold around the sensor with a torch,
    pref. oxyacetylene if you have access to one.

    good luck,

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Dec 31, 2005
    #3
  4. Liquid Wrench penetrating oil. Soak repeatedly. Then pull all the
    garbage out of the center of the O2 sensor that is still in the
    manifold, and use an EZ OUT, or just drill the sucker with a large
    drill bit until it spins off on its own.

    Lg

    WD 40 is $hit in a can.
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Dec 31, 2005
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  5. Liquid Wrench penetrating oil. Soak repeatedly. Then pull all the
    garbage out of the center of the O2 sensor that is still in the
    manifold, and use an EZ OUT, or just drill the sucker with a large
    drill bit until it spins off on its own.

    Lg

    WD 40 is $hit in a can.
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Dec 31, 2005
    #5
  6. Danny Beardsley

    fweddybear Guest

    Or you can also use a pipe tool that when you turn it counterclockwise,
    will grab the inside of whatever is left in there and will come out. I had
    a similar problem with my lawn tractor.... the drain pipe for the oil was
    way too short and wanted to lenghten it. Well somehow, it broke off right at
    the edge of the engine block and I used one of those pipe tools that goes
    inside. I got it at home repo (depot) for not too much.

    Good Luck,

    Fwed
     
    fweddybear, Dec 31, 2005
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  7. Danny Beardsley

    fweddybear Guest

    Or you can also use a pipe tool that when you turn it counterclockwise,
    will grab the inside of whatever is left in there and will come out. I had
    a similar problem with my lawn tractor.... the drain pipe for the oil was
    way too short and wanted to lenghten it. Well somehow, it broke off right at
    the edge of the engine block and I used one of those pipe tools that goes
    inside. I got it at home repo (depot) for not too much.

    Good Luck,

    Fwed
     
    fweddybear, Dec 31, 2005
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  8. Danny Beardsley

    SoCalMike Guest

    yeesh. some options, in no particular order-

    junkyard manifold
    new manifold
    new header
    take it to a machine shop- let them get it out and rethread it
    you drill it out/rethread it
    hammer big flathead screwdriver into it, try to turn
    judicious use of an air chisel, big flathead, try to turn
     
    SoCalMike, Dec 31, 2005
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  9. Danny Beardsley

    SoCalMike Guest

    yeesh. some options, in no particular order-

    junkyard manifold
    new manifold
    new header
    take it to a machine shop- let them get it out and rethread it
    you drill it out/rethread it
    hammer big flathead screwdriver into it, try to turn
    judicious use of an air chisel, big flathead, try to turn
     
    SoCalMike, Dec 31, 2005
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  10. Danny Beardsley

    Nate Nagel Guest

    Hmm, I've never seen what you're describing, but it sounds like
    something to add to the bag o' tricks. Is this a plumbing tool? I will
    have to look next time I'm at Home Despot.

    nate

    PS - I have never had any luck with EZ-outs. They always seem to break
    on me.
     
    Nate Nagel, Dec 31, 2005
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  11. Danny Beardsley

    Nate Nagel Guest

    Hmm, I've never seen what you're describing, but it sounds like
    something to add to the bag o' tricks. Is this a plumbing tool? I will
    have to look next time I'm at Home Despot.

    nate

    PS - I have never had any luck with EZ-outs. They always seem to break
    on me.
     
    Nate Nagel, Dec 31, 2005
    #11
  12. Excellent idea. LEVERAGE IS YOUR FRIEND. Long handles are in
    fashion.


    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Dec 31, 2005
    #12
  13. Excellent idea. LEVERAGE IS YOUR FRIEND. Long handles are in
    fashion.


    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Dec 31, 2005
    #13
  14. Danny Beardsley

    Misterbeets Guest

    Might try a radial cut with a small hacksaw blade.
     
    Misterbeets, Dec 31, 2005
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  15. Danny Beardsley

    Misterbeets Guest

    Might try a radial cut with a small hacksaw blade.
     
    Misterbeets, Dec 31, 2005
    #15
  16. That's what I had to do with my 40 year old bathtub drain. I had to
    make 2 cuts, one on each side, about 120 degrees apart from eachother,
    and then the entire affair collapsed in on itself with a little help
    from a screwdriver and a hammer.
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Dec 31, 2005
    #16
  17. That's what I had to do with my 40 year old bathtub drain. I had to
    make 2 cuts, one on each side, about 120 degrees apart from eachother,
    and then the entire affair collapsed in on itself with a little help
    from a screwdriver and a hammer.
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Dec 31, 2005
    #17
  18. Because I have to *anneal* mine first, the big ones, by heating with a
    propane tourch and then letting them air cool. It takes the
    brittleness out of them.

    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Dec 31, 2005
    #18
  19. Because I have to *anneal* mine first, the big ones, by heating with a
    propane tourch and then letting them air cool. It takes the
    brittleness out of them.

    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Dec 31, 2005
    #19
  20. Danny Beardsley

    fweddybear Guest

    Yes, they are sold at home depot....when i had this problem, i didn't
    know what to do either until I went there and started asking around..... one
    of the people there showed me it....and told me it works wonders...forgot
    how much it is, but I don't think it was too much.... it comes in three
    sizes....well the one i have did...

    good luck,

    Fwed
     
    fweddybear, Dec 31, 2005
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