I just test drove a 1997 VTEC Prelude. I can't say I noticed any huge performance gap between it an

Discussion in 'Prelude' started by LovingPerson, Feb 9, 2004.

  1. LovingPerson

    ruud Guest

    Prelude may be too much car to feel any diff.
    Try a Del Sol VTEC if you can find one. You will be surprised what a
    difference 200 hp in that little thing.
     
    ruud, Feb 15, 2004
  2. LovingPerson

    ruud Guest

    Prelude may be too much car to feel any diff.
    Try a Del Sol VTEC if you can find one. You will be surprised what a
    difference 200 hp in that little thing.
     
    ruud, Feb 15, 2004
  3. Oh god yer right. I remember him explaining why it was theoretically
    impossible for a Honda ignition system to operate beyond 3000 rpm.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Feb 15, 2004
  4. Oh god yer right. I remember him explaining why it was theoretically
    impossible for a Honda ignition system to operate beyond 3000 rpm.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Feb 15, 2004
  5. Dont forget the magnet to align the fuel molecules.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Feb 15, 2004
  6. Dont forget the magnet to align the fuel molecules.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Feb 15, 2004
  7. LovingPerson

    TE Cheah Guest

    correction : Mercedes C200K 's super charger gives 21% extra torque.

    | Where did you dyno it
    No need to use elaborate equipment to estimate %age torque rise ;
    Newton's law says acceleration (m/s²) = force ( N ) ÷ mass (kg), I
    modify this to = ( force - friction / resistance ) ÷ mass. If acceleration
    ( esp when climbing hill / slope ) rises by 15%, mass & friction remain
    constant, then torque must have risen by nearly 15%.
     
    TE Cheah, Feb 15, 2004
  8. LovingPerson

    TE Cheah Guest

    correction : Mercedes C200K 's super charger gives 21% extra torque.

    | Where did you dyno it
    No need to use elaborate equipment to estimate %age torque rise ;
    Newton's law says acceleration (m/s²) = force ( N ) ÷ mass (kg), I
    modify this to = ( force - friction / resistance ) ÷ mass. If acceleration
    ( esp when climbing hill / slope ) rises by 15%, mass & friction remain
    constant, then torque must have risen by nearly 15%.
     
    TE Cheah, Feb 15, 2004
  9. LovingPerson

    TE Cheah Guest

    | you will find no difference in power beyond normal dyno errors.
    Honda prescribes plug gaps of just 1 to 1.1mm, because the built-in
    coil is small [ii] the Sumitomo carbon-core cables ( 6323 ohm/ft )'
    efficiency is low www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/truth.htm .
    My plugs ( fed by these hi-eff cables, 2 ohm/ft, in a F20A )' gaps are 3mm
    , to get a 3mm long spark to burn petrol vapour fstr = more torque. This
    must not be done on any 4 cylinder engine with just a small built-in coil &
    plain carbon-core cables ; a 1mm gap needs just 4.46kv, but a 3mm gap
    needs 12kv to produce a spark.
    My hi-eff cables can feed enough voltage & ampere to my 3mm gaps with
    out any fst drop in torque, or noise rise, up to 3350rpm ( no chance / need
    to spin fstr ; legal speed limit = 110kph ).
    Skeptics can set their gaps to 3mm, then feel how fst torque drops & hear
    how fst exhaust noise rises, @>3000rpm, because voltage & ampere across
    gaps will both be too low, engine will likely stall by 4500rpm.

    | You don't get any extra power to speak of on a modern normally
    | aspirated engine without messing with the internals.
    Bullshit. My brother's '94 Mitsubishi 6G72 engine's coil got a 1' long hi-
    eff cable ( fr me ) to feed high voltage to distributor cap's 6 carbon-core
    cables, the # of ohms reduced was just 2890, yet acceleration ( & torque )
    rose by 10% ( he estimated ).
    In '94 a similar change I did to a '89 Nissan sentra's 1' long coil-cable
    reduced # of ohms by 6000, torque rose 10-15% per the chauffer who
    drove it daily.

    | It's all about the revs (and thus power) in a V-tec motor
    | rather than providing torque.
    On roads with speed limit, an engine with auto gearbox have no chance to
    spin @>3500rpm, so torque is relevant, power is not.
     
    TE Cheah, Feb 15, 2004
  10. LovingPerson

    TE Cheah Guest

    | you will find no difference in power beyond normal dyno errors.
    Honda prescribes plug gaps of just 1 to 1.1mm, because the built-in
    coil is small [ii] the Sumitomo carbon-core cables ( 6323 ohm/ft )'
    efficiency is low www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/truth.htm .
    My plugs ( fed by these hi-eff cables, 2 ohm/ft, in a F20A )' gaps are 3mm
    , to get a 3mm long spark to burn petrol vapour fstr = more torque. This
    must not be done on any 4 cylinder engine with just a small built-in coil &
    plain carbon-core cables ; a 1mm gap needs just 4.46kv, but a 3mm gap
    needs 12kv to produce a spark.
    My hi-eff cables can feed enough voltage & ampere to my 3mm gaps with
    out any fst drop in torque, or noise rise, up to 3350rpm ( no chance / need
    to spin fstr ; legal speed limit = 110kph ).
    Skeptics can set their gaps to 3mm, then feel how fst torque drops & hear
    how fst exhaust noise rises, @>3000rpm, because voltage & ampere across
    gaps will both be too low, engine will likely stall by 4500rpm.

    | You don't get any extra power to speak of on a modern normally
    | aspirated engine without messing with the internals.
    Bullshit. My brother's '94 Mitsubishi 6G72 engine's coil got a 1' long hi-
    eff cable ( fr me ) to feed high voltage to distributor cap's 6 carbon-core
    cables, the # of ohms reduced was just 2890, yet acceleration ( & torque )
    rose by 10% ( he estimated ).
    In '94 a similar change I did to a '89 Nissan sentra's 1' long coil-cable
    reduced # of ohms by 6000, torque rose 10-15% per the chauffer who
    drove it daily.

    | It's all about the revs (and thus power) in a V-tec motor
    | rather than providing torque.
    On roads with speed limit, an engine with auto gearbox have no chance to
    spin @>3500rpm, so torque is relevant, power is not.
     
    TE Cheah, Feb 15, 2004
  11. LovingPerson

    electricked Guest

    Dammit! We got internet macho competition. Let's make a macho campaign and
    make some money by teaching internet users how to be hardy and macho on the
    internet by ridding themselves of any smileys. This would prevent electronic
    abuse of "softies." KEWL OR WOT!

    --Viktor
     
    electricked, Feb 16, 2004
  12. LovingPerson

    electricked Guest

    Dammit! We got internet macho competition. Let's make a macho campaign and
    make some money by teaching internet users how to be hardy and macho on the
    internet by ridding themselves of any smileys. This would prevent electronic
    abuse of "softies." KEWL OR WOT!

    --Viktor
     
    electricked, Feb 16, 2004
  13. LovingPerson

    electricked Guest

    Dammit! We got internet macho competition. Let's make a macho campaign and
    make some money by teaching internet users how to be hardy and macho on the
    internet by ridding themselves of any smileys. This would prevent electronic
    abuse of "softies." KEWL OR WOT!

    --Viktor
     
    electricked, Feb 16, 2004
  14. LovingPerson

    Nom Guest



    That's the biggest load of tosh I've ever read in my life !

    The manufacturer of your car ALREADY fits plugs with the correct gapping,
    and leads that are more-than upto the job - why on earth would they do
    otherwise ?!?!?
     
    Nom, Feb 16, 2004
  15. LovingPerson

    Nom Guest



    That's the biggest load of tosh I've ever read in my life !

    The manufacturer of your car ALREADY fits plugs with the correct gapping,
    and leads that are more-than upto the job - why on earth would they do
    otherwise ?!?!?
     
    Nom, Feb 16, 2004


  16. "Magnecor does not claim its Race Wires increase horsepower, and any
    horsepower gained by the use of Magnecor Race Wires results entirely from
    the ability of the wires to maintain full conductance and suppress EMI that
    previously robbed the engine of horsepower"

    From their own website!
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Feb 16, 2004


  17. "Magnecor does not claim its Race Wires increase horsepower, and any
    horsepower gained by the use of Magnecor Race Wires results entirely from
    the ability of the wires to maintain full conductance and suppress EMI that
    previously robbed the engine of horsepower"

    From their own website!
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Feb 16, 2004
  18. LovingPerson

    dizzy Guest

    Only mental giants black-out their headlights.
     
    dizzy, Feb 16, 2004
  19. LovingPerson

    dizzy Guest

    Only mental giants black-out their headlights.
     
    dizzy, Feb 16, 2004
  20. LovingPerson

    dizzy Guest

    Only mental giants black-out their headlights.
     
    dizzy, Feb 16, 2004
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