If Accord Oil Filters Changed

Apologies if this has been addressed before. Went thru all the listed posts
and didn't see it.

Have been buying Accord oil filters at the dealer for probably 17 years now.
When I purchased some the other day the ones I was given are quite a bit
smaller in diameter and maybe a half inch longer than what I've been getting
for years.

Wanted to check with the experts here to verify that Honda did indeed make a
change (versus me being given the wrong item). The ones I used to get were
labeled 15400-PT7-005 and the ones I was given the other day are 15400-PLM-A02.
Thanks.

 

That is what I was told when I bought the 4 for the price of 3 at the
dealership the other day. I am not that impressed with them, especially
when I took off the much larger Purolator filter I was using.

Additionally I may have to go out and buy an oil filter wrench for it since
it is so small. My other small oil filter wrench is too big. I guess I can
just use sheets of sandpaper wrapped around the filter for now. I am
inclined to not purchase the Honda filters anymore and get the much larger
PL24458 (I think that is it) for my Accord EX 96. Common sense tells me
that a larger filter has more media to filter out particulates and will
last longer without getting plugged up. The guy also confirmed they are
made by FRAM. Which I hate.


CaptainKrunch

 

Honda went to an even smaller than before filter in the 2003 model year and
has apparently standardized on the new small one for replacement part
applications. This is a convenience to Honda and the dealers as they like
stocking fewer part types.

Honda US replacement filters are generally the not so impressive Fram orange
filters in Honda paint. Nothing special there!

You can still get the larger size filters in quality aftermarket brands such
as Purolator, Wix, etc.

John

 

Autozone

STP...


I returned all 3 of mine after noticing the difference and the price
increase!

 

That's what your wife said.

Yep.

http://www.google.com is a great place to go.

 

Got proof?

 

Trust him. It's a recent change. They are no longer mae by Filtech. If
your are lucky, you might still find some none Fram old stock.

I would have post the link if i remembered it.

 

Since these filters are bypass type that filter high viscosity oil, marginally
larger sized filters have little significant to flow rate.

 

I decided to do some checking for myself:
http://www.tegger.com/honda_filter_comparo.html

For some reason, my html name tags within the document only work properly
in Internet Explorer. When clicked in Netscape/Mozilla, they only work
going UP, not DOWN. Any ideas?

 

Yes, but I am not going to waste time on you. Do your own research.

John

 

Very good webpage.

CaptainKrunch

 

Use:

<a name="foo" href="#bar">

not

<a name="#foo" href="#bar">

The octothorpe isn't part of the anchor name. It's a separator between
the parts. I have no idea why they were working to go back to the top,
though.

 

Yes, but I am not going to waste time on you. Do your own research.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, pal. When you make an assertion like that, it's up to YOU to
offer the proof. It's not up to everyone else to believe you and then
go out in search of proof of what you say.

Which tells us that you have no proof, actually; you're the type to just
spout it out and let it lie there, and when someone challenges you, you
bluff. Or lie.

 

(Matthew Hunt) spake unto the masses in

Oops! Brain cramp. Fixed now, thanks.

 

Your assumptions are incorrect. Have a look at the web page another poster
pointed us to:

http://www.tegger.com/honda_filter_comparo.html

If you really care, use Google to search for Honda and filter and Fram and
you can find where people have cut them open, etc.

Sorry pal, this time your hastily drawn conclusion is wrong.

John

 

I've never opened one up but are those "paper" endplates just cardboard or
is a laminated plasticized paper composite? If it's just cardboard I still
strongly disagree with your conclusions there - cardboard is not good
enough for the job in all conditions and is obviously the cheapest material
one could possibly use for the application. I can afford the extra coupla
$$ for something better; add in the indictment by the the former Fram
engineer http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilter-fram1.txt linked
through from http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html and I
just don't need this substandard junk.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

It's a composite. To call it "cardboard" at all is a misnomer. I'm not sure
there is even any wood fiber in it at all. I should adjust my Web page to
reflect that.

It's the same stuff that's used for fuel pump gaskets and other gaskets
that are subject to oil. When you try to tear or delaminate the "paper", it
actually resembles non-woven textiles, just like the gasket material you're
used to seeing everywhere else.

I read that indictment. He's got an ax to grind. I'm not impressed.

 

Nice effort, but one thing: could you include the filter part numbers on the
website? That would be a big help.

IIRC the US filters, part 15400-POH-305 are made by Filtech (these have Made
in the USA on the label and Filtech written on the side). They are great
filters. There is a Canadian counterpart that was made by Fram (it says
made in Canada on the label). It think it is part 15400-PT7-005.

The 15400-POH-305 are being replaced as well by the 15400-PLM-A01 I believe.
They are smaller, but seem to have a lot of surface area. See this pic:
http://www.handa-accessories.com/viewer.html?pic=15400.jpg

I don't know who makes the A01. It looks very similar to the pics of a Toyo
Roki (made in Japan) filter I have seen. The 15400-PLM-A02 is made in
Canada. It may be the Fram-Canada counterpart to the A01, I am not sure.

 

How'd you find that URL? I can't find any link through to it at
http://www.handa-accessories.com/

I notice that in their pic of the new filter, H-and-A has obliterated the
A0x at the end of the part number. I'd guess you're right though, the A01
is the Toyo Roki part, in which case we'll not see it in N.America...
unless Filtech, which I believe is still owned by Toyo Roki, decides to
make it and Honda decides to distribute it. BTW, that's quite a shocking
difference in visible quality between the A01 part and the Fram filter.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

This has a picture of the Honda FRAM.




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