Ignition updates to the Unofficial FAQ

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by TeGGeR®, May 28, 2005.

  1. TeGGeR®

    TeGGeR® Guest


    Then how do you explain this?
    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/rov-ign.jpg
    Look a the text immediately below the title.



    Then I'm still looking for a definitive answer.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jun 4, 2005
    #81
  2. ----- Original Message -----
    From: "TeGGeR®" <0m>
    Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.honda,alt.autos.acura,alt.autos.honda
    Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:37 AM
    Subject: Re: Ignition updates to the Unofficial FAQ

    That was how Jim got into the semantic trap to start with. The ECU supplies
    a low current ground to pin 4, which grounds an input on the IC, but the
    main ground - the one the coil current flows through - is the one shown in
    the lower right corner of the ignitor; the metal body of the ignitor itself.
    The current from pin 4 is undoubtedly in the range of 1 ma.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 4, 2005
    #82
  3. ----- Original Message -----
    From: "TeGGeR®" <0m>
    Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.honda,alt.autos.acura,alt.autos.honda
    Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:37 AM
    Subject: Re: Ignition updates to the Unofficial FAQ

    That was how Jim got into the semantic trap to start with. The ECU supplies
    a low current ground to pin 4, which grounds an input on the IC, but the
    main ground - the one the coil current flows through - is the one shown in
    the lower right corner of the ignitor; the metal body of the ignitor itself.
    The current from pin 4 is undoubtedly in the range of 1 ma.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 4, 2005
    #83
  4. TeGGeR®

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Yes,the ECU signal is a normally HI,LO(ground)-to-enable signal.

    Thanks!
     
    Jim Yanik, Jun 4, 2005
    #84
  5. TeGGeR®

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Yes,the ECU signal is a normally HI,LO(ground)-to-enable signal.

    Thanks!
     
    Jim Yanik, Jun 4, 2005
    #85
  6. TeGGeR®

    Randolph Guest

    Yes, that is what I meant, and that is what the data sheet shows.
    I did some more digging, and you are right, it is not an opto-coupler.
    It is indeed a chip for controlling ignition coils. It is made by
    Telefunken / TEMIC, and they had a family of 3: U2225B is used when the
    input is from an inductive sensor, U2226B is intended for use with a
    microcontroller / microprocessor and U2227B is used when the chip is
    connected directly to an optical sensor. I have not had any luck finding
    the data sheet for this part.
     
    Randolph, Jun 5, 2005
    #86
  7. TeGGeR®

    Randolph Guest

    Yes, that is what I meant, and that is what the data sheet shows.
    I did some more digging, and you are right, it is not an opto-coupler.
    It is indeed a chip for controlling ignition coils. It is made by
    Telefunken / TEMIC, and they had a family of 3: U2225B is used when the
    input is from an inductive sensor, U2226B is intended for use with a
    microcontroller / microprocessor and U2227B is used when the chip is
    connected directly to an optical sensor. I have not had any luck finding
    the data sheet for this part.
     
    Randolph, Jun 5, 2005
    #87
  8. TeGGeR®

    TeGGeR® Guest


    I've removed the innards of the igniter from the graphics and will add that
    body round later on, changing the yellow and orange lines around to suit.
    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/igniter-operation/index.html

    Since the workings are far more detailed than I had originally imagined, I
    will leave the igniter as a "here be dragons" blank box until somebody else
    decides to supply a correct schematic for me to copy.

    Thanks very much to all.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jun 6, 2005
    #88
  9. TeGGeR®

    TeGGeR® Guest


    I've removed the innards of the igniter from the graphics and will add that
    body round later on, changing the yellow and orange lines around to suit.
    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/igniter-operation/index.html

    Since the workings are far more detailed than I had originally imagined, I
    will leave the igniter as a "here be dragons" blank box until somebody else
    decides to supply a correct schematic for me to copy.

    Thanks very much to all.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jun 6, 2005
    #89
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