immobilizer question -1999 accord LX

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Guitarman, Feb 1, 2004.

  1. Guitarman

    Guitarman Guest

    I read the car manual and it seems to imply that if the starter cranks
    when attempting to start the car, then the problem is not the
    immobilizer--since if the code in the key does not match the computer,
    the starter wouldn't even operate. Is this a correct interpretation?

    My car sometimes does not start but it cranks very strongly. Do I
    instead have a problem with the fuel pump and not the immobilizer
    system?

    Thanks,
    Dennis
     
    Guitarman, Feb 1, 2004
    #1
  2. If it cranks, then it's not the immobilizer.



    How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

    1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
    2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
    3. Hold button til light goes out
     
    He Hate Retards, Feb 1, 2004
    #2
  3. Huh?

    The immobilizer doesn't keep the starter from operating; it stops the
    ignition from operating. It'll crank away but not start if it's an
    immobilizer problem.

    Why don't you go crawl back into your hole and keep your ignorance to
    yourself.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Feb 1, 2004
    #3
  4. Guitarman

    Chip Stein Guest

    wrong. the car will crank fine with an unencoded key. if it's an
    immobilizer problem it will crank but the green key light on the dash
    will flash.
    Chip
     
    Chip Stein, Feb 1, 2004
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    Dennis,

    Aftermarket alarm systems disable the starter, because it's a simpler
    system to tap into. Honda alarms kill the ignition circuit, since it's
    even harder to defeat that. If only the starter was defeated, you could
    still roll-start a Honda once you had hot wired it.

    Have you tried taking the keys off the keyrings, to improve signal
    strength ? ?

    'Curly'

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    'Curly Q. Links', Feb 2, 2004
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  6. Guitarman

    DocWilly Guest

    Incorrect. It stops the fuel supply.





     
    DocWilly, Feb 6, 2004
    #6
  7. Right. Without fuel, there is no ignition.

    But the engine cranks.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Feb 6, 2004
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    Something I'm not following here. If the immobilizer kills only the fuel
    supply (and I'm not arguing that it doesn't), wouldn't the vehicle start
    for a second and then stall, because there's still some fuel pressure
    (as well as fumes) next time you go to start it? Or is there a mechanism
    that allows the fuel pressure to bleed down slowly, presumably for fire
    safety? Thanks.

    'Curly'

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    'Curly Q. Links', Feb 6, 2004
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  9. Guitarman

    J. Guest


    I know the original post was for a 99 Accord immobilizer, which may or may
    not kill the starter.

    However, the 99 Prelude immobilizer kills both the starter via the "starter
    cut relay" AND disables the "fuel enable" signal to the ECM (engine control
    module) if an unencoded key is used. This was verified in both the Prelude
    Electrical Troubleshooting manual and tested when I had a plain key cut
    (just for locking/unlocking the doors without the remote).

    It's unlikely, but the immobilizer COULD be intermittent on one signal and
    not the other.

    J.
     
    J., Feb 6, 2004
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