Incorrect Battery Charging Voltage?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Caroline, Sep 7, 2004.

  1. Caroline

    Caroline Guest

    2nd Update, as I think now the charging system is operating normally.

    I checked. It drops to something between 11.8 and 13 volts *momentarily*.
    After the slight drop, it rises pretty quickly (3-10 seconds?) to something
    between 14 and 14.5 volts.

    When I turn off the loads, it stays up over 14 volts for a little while. (I
    didn't wait for it to drop.)

    If I then turn off the car, then turn it back on (no loads), the voltage is back
    to about 12.7 volts (here in the summertime).

    I can repeat the above events merely by turning on the headlights, though it's a
    bit more dramatic with more electrical loads.
    I'm buying this.

    My best guess as to what was happening in February (when unloaded, the battery
    terminal voltage was 14.4 volts) is that it is somehow related to the
    particularly cooler temperatures then compared to now.
    Darn tootin'. I'm sure as heck not going to replace an OEM, dealer installed
    alternator after a lousy five years and 50k miles... :) That puppy better make
    it to 100k miles or eight years, AFAIC.

    I hope!

    Autozone Aside: I drew on the "expertise" of the fine folks at Autozone today.
    They did what they said was an "alternator test." The guy hooked up to the
    battery terminals a sophisticated-looking electrical tester. (IOW, it does more
    than my $15 Radio Shack digital voltmeter.) He read off voltages while operating
    the throttle control manually (under the hood). He got the same sub-13 volts I
    got. He never changed the electrical loads. His conclusion: Buy a new
    alternator. My conclusion, "All he did was what I pretty much did, so not so
    fast." I thought he'd at least take some readings at the alternator terminal.
    But one gets what one pays for, I suppose. This check was free.

    Firestone (where I bought my new Insterstate battery) aside: After buying and
    installing (in the Firestone parking lot) my new battery Monday, I checked the
    voltage and saw no change from my previous readings of about 12.7 volts. I
    popped into the Firestone showroom and asked the guy if he'd give me his
    opinion. He said I was wrong about the 14+ volts being usual when the car was
    running. I said okay and left, not wishing to start a row and knowing this was
    my problem, anyway. At this point, I feel the guy was speaking with some
    legitimacy.

    Lastly: Thanks, Jim.
     
    Caroline, Sep 9, 2004
    #21
  2. Caroline

    Graham W Guest

    Caroline wrote:
    No, there isn't! Wires in everyday appliances like cars and TVs don't
    wear out. If anything, the insulation around the conductor can slowly
    deteriorate and the terminals can go grotty but the wire is OK.
    There's a different kettle of fish! There is no wire in the plug wires!
    What is there is a fluffy string soaked in (dry) carbon powder to act
    as a very long thin resistor. When the string breaks, the cradle will
    fallxxx (oops) the gap between the carbon ends saps the energy of the
    spark leading to a weak spark.

    So leave your wires alone except to check the connections and
    clean/repair/renew as required.
     
    Graham W, Sep 9, 2004
    #22
  3. Caroline

    Graham W Guest

    Caroline wrote:
    No, there isn't! Wires in everyday appliances like cars and TVs don't
    wear out. If anything, the insulation around the conductor can slowly
    deteriorate and the terminals can go grotty but the wire is OK.
    There's a different kettle of fish! There is no wire in the plug wires!
    What is there is a fluffy string soaked in (dry) carbon powder to act
    as a very long thin resistor. When the string breaks, the cradle will
    fallxxx (oops) the gap between the carbon ends saps the energy of the
    spark leading to a weak spark.

    So leave your wires alone except to check the connections and
    clean/repair/renew as required.
     
    Graham W, Sep 9, 2004
    #23
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