Insurance: Mods & Underwriters ever "mix"?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Charles Lasitter, Apr 16, 2005.

  1. After tripping over a few horror stories about insurance coverage
    being declined or withdrawn due to performance mods I've read about
    here, I knew I had to do a bit more research.

    One guy at Tire Rack was obviously a bit eager to sell me a
    suspension kit, as he proceeded to tell me that he had worked in auto
    insurance for 17 years and had "never heard of" an insurance problem
    resulting from suspension mods. That included all his time at the
    Tire Rack, how ever long that was.

    Sounding entirely too convenient for comfort, I decided to call my
    insurance company, USAA. I was told that tires, wheels and shocks
    were not a problem, but any suspension mods that raised the car or
    lowered the suspension would have to "go to underwriting".

    I've corresponded with others who assure me that asking permission
    from underwriting is the "kiss of death" for anything you might have
    in mind. That's the "NO" department.

    I've read plenty of posts about people that informed their agent and
    saved their receipts, pictures, etc. Some claimed there were no
    problems, and others have horror stories of being notified weeks
    later that their coverage would be dropped if they did not undo the
    mods and have the car re-inspected.

    This "no man's land" of insurance coverage makes me pretty uneasy, so
    I'd like to hear from people that know specifically that the
    UNDERWRITING department said OK to custom spring, struts, engine mods
    that upped the horsepower, or what have you.

    In particular, I'd like to hear from drivers with clean records,
    about the type of car they wanted to mod (can be a big factor), the
    location of the insured vehicle, miles driven, and age of the
    insured.

    I would love it if we had a resource that you could reference and
    thereby have an advance clue as to the specific mods you could get by
    individual insurers. Or it might turn out that it had much more to
    do with other factors (age, location, miles driven, auto).

    While I'm at it, I've picked up on another "vibe" that I'd like like
    feedback on. Many performance mods are garish, brightly colored
    things that scream out for attention from insurance adjusters in the
    event of a claim. If you look at a wreck, and see red springs, pink
    shocks, and something else that's purple, I bet that really sets off
    alarm bells for an underwriter.

    For people persuing a "don't ask, don't tell" policy about mods to
    their vehicle, I'd bet that there would be a big benefit to finding
    parts that performed well but looked as stock as possible.

    -- CL.

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    Charles Lasitter, Apr 16, 2005
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    SoCalMike Guest

    because youre basically screwing with the manufacturers specs. theres no
    guarantee of the warrantability, suitability, or quality of
    installation. very easy to take a perfectly "safe" accord and turn it
    into a rolling time bomb.
    is the car paid for? in full? why would the insurance *want* to cover a
    3" drop kit, supercharger, or turbo? its hard to believe someone would
    install this stuff and not want to "test it out a bit".

    and unless that means getting track time (insurance wont cover racing
    track accidents, duh), it would mean testing it out on the onramps,
    offramps, freeways, etc.
    for that answer, youll need to look maybe at a miata group, and find out
    who insures them. they mod out their cars all the time, do track events,
    etc. and im sure a lot of the cars are daily drivers.

    they should be able to steer you toward "race/mod-friendly" insurance
    companies.
    if i was going to mod my 98 CX, with a supercharger, drop kit, etc... id
    likely go with basic liability insurance. insurance companies know that
    mods actually *decrease* the value of the average car, and they insure
    cars for full coverage that are worth full value.
    try the miata groups.
    and malt liquor bottles, LCDs in the headrests and dashboard, etc. also
    depends who is at fault.
    if the car isnt paid for and is still under factory warranty, dont do
    *anything* (aside from maybe wheels/tires) that cant be easily undone.


    a FOAF had to pay for $3000 in tranny work out of pocket, because she
    thought a 6" lift kit would look good on her tahoe. tranny blew, and the
    dealer said the lift kit and oversize tires/wheels were the cause. undue
    stress on the drivetrain, etc.

    mitsubishi motors did research online to find out who was racing their
    lancer turbos, and when the owners needed warranty work done, it was
    flat-out denied.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 16, 2005
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