Is Honda switching to timing chains?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Cameo, Sep 5, 2010.

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    Cameo Guest

    My bad! Sorry.
     
    Cameo, Sep 8, 2010
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    jim beam Guest

    just did a water pump on a gf's civic. cheapo afermarket crap - the
    "bearing" had worn so badly, there was a full 1/8" side to side play on
    the thing.

    bottom line - don't buy chinese vehicle components people! unless you
    don't mind replacing after only 30k miles that is.
     
    jim beam, Sep 9, 2010
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    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Are you suggesting that accountants trump engineers? WOW! I'd never
    have expected THAT!

    (So those without a sarcasm or cynicism detector, that was both)
     
    Dillon Pyron, Sep 10, 2010
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    Tegger Guest


    "Pre-stretching" may have something to do with it, but I doubt it. Pre-
    stretching has been in use since at least the '60s, so even all the old-
    style chains were likely pre-stretched.

    Inverted-tooth chain links simply have a lot more contact area with the pin
    than the old link-chains. In addition, inverted-tooth chains ride on
    completely different sorts of sprockets than the old chains did, meaning
    there's less stress on the links.
     
    Tegger, Sep 10, 2010
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    jim beam Guest

    nope. 80's.

    sprocket teeth are irrelevant in the wear equation:

    1. chain elongation [and thus valve timing drift] is caused by wear
    between the chain pins and the plates - tooth wear is insignificant.

    2. for rollerless chain, lubrication is more critical than roller chain.
     
    jim beam, Sep 11, 2010
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    kb9rqz Guest

    indeed lubrication is important to loosen up Tholen.
     
    kb9rqz, Sep 20, 2010
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    tholen Guest

    68> Newsgroups:
    alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.radio.cb,alt.
    2600

    68> is jacking all you think about?

    What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do
    with OS/2, kb9rqz?

    69> Newsgroups:
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    69> indeed you tell'em tholen! lets shoot our spew all over thier
    faces !

    What are "thier faces", kb9rqz, and what do they have to do with
    OS/2?

    70> Newsgroups:
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    70> indeed lubrication is important to loosen up Tholen.

    What does your ridiculous remark have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?

    71> Newsgroups:
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    71> tholen's teh guy on teh other end of teh hole in teh stall-wall.

    What does your ridiculous remark have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?

    72> Newsgroups:
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    72> So waht ? At least I know waht it's like to lick my excrement off
    of
    72> another man's genitals.

    What do your question and experience have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?
     
    tholen, Sep 20, 2010
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    Robert James Guest

    What does your love of transsexual negros have to do with the grand
    Soviet conspircy, Christmas Jew?
     
    Robert James, Sep 20, 2010
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    kb9rqz Guest

     
    kb9rqz, Sep 20, 2010
    #49
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    dgk Guest

    Time to change the header. This has nothing to do with timing chains.
     
    dgk, Sep 21, 2010
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    tholen Guest

    1> Newsgroups:
    alt.usenet.kooks,alt.autos.honda,rec.radio.amateur.policy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.
    2600

    1> Time to change the header.

    So why didn't you?

    1> This has nothing to do with timing chains.

    It also has nothing to do with OS/2, yet you posted it to an OS/2
    newsgroup anyway, dgk.
     
    tholen, Sep 21, 2010
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    kb9rqz Guest

     
    kb9rqz, Sep 21, 2010
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    kb9rqz Guest

     
    kb9rqz, Sep 22, 2010
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    dgk Guest

    Yes, much better now, you're right.

    There's still an OS/2 group? Somewhere in my basement I still have a
    copy of Warp - I could probably install it if I can find a machine
    that has a diskette drive.
     
    dgk, Sep 22, 2010
    #54
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    Robert James Guest

    Download eComStation and burn the ISO to a CD-Rom. It's is the new OS/
    2 and still sucks donkey balls.
     
    Robert James, Sep 22, 2010
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    kb9rqz Guest

     
    kb9rqz, Sep 22, 2010
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    tholen Guest

    2> Newsgroups:
    alt.usenet.kooks,alt.autos.honda,rec.radio.amateur.policy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.
    2600

    2> Yes, much better now, you're right.

    2> There's still an OS/2 group?

    Why are you using the singular? There are over a dozen
    OS/2 newsgroups.

    2> Somewhere in my basement I still have a
    2> copy of Warp - I could probably install it if I can find a machine
    2> that has a diskette drive.

    And other supported hardware, such as the graphics adapter.
     
    tholen, Sep 22, 2010
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    tholen Guest

    28> Newsgroups:
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    28> What does your son being a member of the French Resistance have to
    do
    28> with A26, old fart?

    Who is "old fart", James? There is nobody in this newsgroup
    using that alias.

    29> Newsgroups:
    alt.usenet.kooks,alt.autos.honda,rec.radio.amateur.policy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.
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    29> Download eComStation and burn the ISO to a CD-Rom. It's is the new
    OS/2

    Classic redundancy.

    29> and still sucks donkey balls.

    On what basis do you make that claim, James?

    30> Newsgroups:
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    30> A message to and from the NASA doctor the anti spam ham is
    30> impersonating:

    What does your alleged message have to do with OS/2, James?

    30> Most excellent, my good doctor.

    Who is "my good doctor", James? There is nobody in this newsgroup
    using that alias.

    30> It's the .alt hierarchy way when some dingbat crossposts flames to
    a
    30> bunch of other groups.

    What does kb9rqz being a dingbat have to do with OS/2, James?

    30> Thanks,
    30> NASA Doctor

    Who is "NASA Doctor", James? There is nobody in this newsgroup
    using that alias.
     
    tholen, Sep 22, 2010
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    Robert James Guest

    On this day, 22 Sep 2010. , another Scientologist
    from alt.2600, working with LRH's tech failed to clear any of their
    engrams or body thetans. Therefore is a PTS and will
    go to the Comm Ev due to out-ethics. 's overts must
    be declared to get back on source.
    What does your decade old kidney stone have to do with A26, Drippy Pee?
     
    Robert James, Sep 23, 2010
    #59
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    tholen Guest

    31> Newsgroups:
    alt.usenet.kooks,alt.autos.honda,rec.radio.amateur.policy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.
    2600

    31> On this day, 22 Sep 2010. , another
    Scientologist
    31> from alt.2600, working with LRH's tech failed to clear any of
    their
    31> engrams or body thetans. Therefore is a PTS
    and will
    31> go to the Comm Ev due to out-ethics. 's overts
    must
    31> be declared to get back on source.

    What do your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claims have
    to do with OS/2, James?

    31> What does your decade old kidney stone have to do with A26, Drippy
    Pee?

    Who is "Drippy Pee", James? There is nobody in this newsgroup
    using that alias.
     
    tholen, Sep 23, 2010
    #60
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